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PostSubject: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 9:56 am

    "The US has concluded an arms deal with Saudi Arabia worth $350 billion over 10 years, with $110 billion set to take effect immediately, the White House said Saturday, hailing the deal as “a significant expansion of… [the] security relationship” between the two countries.

    “This package of defense equipment and services support the long-term security of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf region in the face of Iranian threats, while also bolstering the Kingdom’s ability to contribute to counter terrorism operations across the region, reducing the burden on the U.S. military to conduct those operations,” the White House said in a statement, as cited by CNBC.

    Donald Trump is the first American president to make Saudi Arabia, or any majority Muslim country, his first stop overseas as president. The nine-day trip will also include Israel, the Palestinian territories, Brussels, the Vatican, and Sicily.

    “I think it is striking that the president during his campaign made it—made it pretty clear that he’d like to get out of these wars in the broader Middle East, but—and pay attention to nation-building at home while his first stop is the Middle East, his first foreign trip is the Middle East,” Elliott Abrams of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) said on Monday.

    “Previous presidents have gone to Canada or Mexico first since Jimmy Carter, everyone since Jimmy Carter, Canada or Mexico. Carter went to Europe first. So, this is—this is a first, to put the Middle East on the top of the agenda and make it the first trip,” he added.

    King of Saudi Arabia Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud announced on Saturday that Trump’s visit to the kingdom would boost ties between the two countries and help step up global security."


https://www.rt.com/news/389054-trump-saudi-first-visit/


 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 9:58 am

This is the same Elliot Abrams, war criminal for the neocons, that Trump wants.

    "Abrams was forced to plead guilty to deliberately misleading Congress regarding his nefarious role in the Iran-contra scandal. (He was also disbarred in the District of Columbia.)

    However, this is just the tip of a colossal iceberg. As a member of George W. Bush’s National Security Council staff, Abrams encouraged, according to credible reports, a (briefly successful) military coup against the democratically elected government of Venezuela in 2002, poisoning the US relationship with that government once it returned to power. He also worked to subvert the results of the 2006 elections in the Palestinian territories, a move that ended up strengthening the most radical elements of Hamas and undermining—perhaps forever—the possibility of a democratic peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

    But these are still relative misdemeanors in the Abrams dossier, paling in comparison with the role he played in the Reagan administration. As assistant secretary of state for human rights, Abrams sought to ensure that General Efraín Ríos Montt, Guatemala’s then-dictator, could carry out “acts of genocide”—those are the legally binding words of Guatemala’s United Nations–backed Commission for Historical Clarification—against the indigenous people in the Ixil region of the department of Quiché, without any pesky interference from human-rights organizations, much less the US government.

    As the mass killings were taking place, Abrams fought in Congress for military aid to Ríos Montt’s bloody regime. He credited the murderous dictator with having “brought considerable progress” on human-rights issues. Abrams even went so far as to insist that “the amount of killing of innocent civilians is being reduced step by step” before demanding that Congress provide the regime with advanced arms because its alleged “progress need[ed] to be rewarded and encouraged.”"


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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 9:58 am

How is this weapons deal with the Saudis for 350 billion dollars any different from what Shillery would have done? I'm sure she is quite happy with it all.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 10:01 am

CFR McMaster, the Syria strike and how he talked about the gas attack, CFR Abrams, demoting Bannon, not fixing health care, attacking the freedom caucus for saying they wanted to do what Trump said for the whole campaign he wanted to do (repeal the ACA on day one), not fixing the deficit or debt, increasing military spending, striking huge new military deals with the Saudis, .....

I'm done with Trump.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:04 am

I forgot one other reason, that he didn't prosecute Shillery for her illegal email server, mishandling classified information, and deleting evidence of a crime. Especially after during his campaigning he chanted "lock her up!" over and over, all the time, giving the impression that he would hold her accountable to the law like anyone else.... yeah, nope. He won't do it, he was just lying I guess.

One more reason not to trust him.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:05 am

Trump: what a piece of shit. He had us all fooled.

Professional con man. We voted him in to do all the things he said he would do, and now he isn't doing them. So fuck him.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:07 am

I guess my original feelings about Trump were right, before I was "red pilled" into agreeing with most of his stated agenda. But despite the issues and policies that he was proposing, and that many of these are good ideas, I still had the feeling that he was not trustworthy. Many people had and still have this feeling, it is a large part of the leftist resistance to him. Half of that resistance comes from Soros and his cronies, the other half from natural human instinct that Trump is a piece of shit.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:07 am

I am sad to have been proven correct in my original thoughts about him.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:15 am

Trump is still the target of hourly treason on the highest levels. The situation remains opaque and unpredictable.

Trumps trip and Saudi deal is a declaration of war against Iran. That's clearly the entire point of it. Not that this is mentioned. But Trump has decided to eliminate one party from the counsel of dominant faiths; Shia islam.

The Saudis and the Israelis have been working together. Iran has been their common enemy. Trump seems to be working on solidifying that alliance under direct US stewardship. It means he is getting ready to end the conflict in the ME, to quench the source of its vigor, the eternal Shia-Sunni war.

Success in that venture, which is not at all guaranteed of course, nor would any moralist condone it, would pave the way for relatively peaceful, sane capitalistic ME.

Not democratic, naturally - democracy was only ever fit for the west, which saw need to invent it. And then only for properly aristocratic, disciplined and learned societies like ancient Athens.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:41 am

Indeed some of the reasons you disliked him have always been valid. These are some of the same reasons why I think he's capable of being the first human in centuries to do something useful in world-politics.

Perhaps this will explain my position: "politics" and "evil" are cognate.
Both are per definition based on compromise.

Trump is the first politician of the modern age that isn't ashamed of this. He is the first "pure politician" of our time.
Inevitably, this produces many moral disturbances.

All Ill be able to judge Trump on is on whether in 4 years the world will be less or more goo-like than before the elections.

Right now, it is dramatically less goo-like, and some real totalitarian crackdown would have to occur to bring it up again. Rather I expect the world to become even less goo-like. Not at the hands of Trump - he's already done his part, he's been the tear in the fabric I speak of here.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 4:44 pm

Trump only has to do one of the following items, in order to win back my support:

    --Prosecute Shillery

    --Repeal the ACA

    --Withdraw from NATO/declare some kind of significant economic and/or military alliance with Russia

    --Actually cut spending and waste (propose a real budget, including a return to pre-Reagan levels of spending and taxes)

    --Drain the swamp (fire all the CFR people and Obozo holdovers)



If he can do just one of these, I will re-support him. Until then, fuck it.


 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 5:40 pm

As Bannon said in the beginning, it's very important for the internet to keep telling Trump what he needs to do.
Of course most of his base has been confused or discouraged. But if one thing there is we know about Trump it's that he can't resist listening to new information.
What he does with it is always unpredictable, but he cant help being curious what people think - what everybody thinks.

It was very awkward when he got the Suaid medal hung around his neck, he didnt know how to bow his head so the guy could manage, so he sort of made a weird half kneeling gesture that causes some laughing in the audience, and him a very red face for a while. Kek. Its fitting, it would have been weirder if he was very smooth in getting Saudi honoring like Bush, who is among old friends there, more comfortable with Saudi elitism than with American democracy.

Overall, Trumps strategy has been to be underestimated.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sat May 20, 2017 11:02 pm

Trump is now indeed compromised -
his gestures in Arabia have surely lost him the respect of 4chan.
Let's hope Jesus can save him later on in the trip.
Lol.

Yeah now it's going to get weirder and weirder...
a certain possibility is that he's going to want to be impeached.

All things considered, a Bannonian hard line would have been the safe way to go.
But Trump wanted things to happen fast.

Now they are happening fast. He is in for some strong impressions on the way.

He'll be relieved to see the Pope, lol. I mean kek.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 6:27 am

Personally, I don't see a problem. He knows how to CYA. He has an agenda but hasn't told us what it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 9:29 am

Haha, useful abbreviation I didnt know.

I have unwavering faith in Trump actually, I was being a bit rhetorical and dramatic late at night.

What pleased me to see is that Bannon came with and is displayed. Its a big statement.

What also makes sense to me is to skip visits to Canada and Mexico, as these are nations that have attacked Trump along with the subhumanity-militias in the US.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 11:01 am

Utterly unbelievable that Trump caved to the military industrial complex and the Saudis with this deal. The more I think about it, the more I can't believe it.

He is truly gone. Today is a day of mourning.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 11:40 am

Yes.... it is truly unforgivable.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 11:45 am

We do have very different standards here.
Arms deals with strategic partners are the lifeblood of the US economy, and have been since the 1950's.

The Saudi alliance is as old. Obolko for some reason thought it a good idea to give all the profits of the arms deals to Iran to slow down (read: enable) the manufacturing of nuclear weapons.

Obargcko was only out to waste US resources and strengthen all its enemies, it seems like - Trump is returning to reliable allies and sound economics.

Of course it was never possible that he would turn out a pacifist, or a moralist, or anything else than a businessman trying to keep the US economy from dying.

What interests me now is the ties between Israel and the Saudis. Thats one of the contexts where the politics of the future are being decided.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 11:56 am

The US can only play a facilitating role.

Trump seems to understand that the Jewish and Muslim powers are older than the US is, that the US can not change the way these powers self-value - he seems to have a much more realistic idea of the "peace process" there - he seems namely to understand that war is an eternal phenomenon. The US has to strategically pick sides.

The idea that Trump could realistically or even honorably walk the US out of that theater after them having determined entirely the balance of powers there is false. Its not a matter of morality, but of causality. If you pump 5 trillion into a region and determine the course of every single life in it, you have to stick around as the dice roll. If you don't, you can only lose.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 12:01 pm

Yep. Iran feels the way the wind blows, and responds as it always does, like a blade of grass.

FT wrote:

Hassan Rouhani said Iranians had chosen re-engagement with the outside world over “extremism and violence” after he won a landslide victory in a presidential election he had presented as a referendum on the direction the Islamic republic should take domestically and internationally.

“Today, Iran is standing taller than at any time before and is ready to expand its relations with the world based on mutual respect and national interests,” Mr Rouhani said in his victory speech.

“Today, the world knows that Iranians have chosen the path of interaction with the world away from extremism and violence.”

Mr Rouhani, who sealed Iran’s historic nuclear deal with world powers during his first term, won 57 per cent of the vote. His hardline opponent, Ebrahim Raisi, a senior cleric who was running for office for the first time, garnered 38.5 per cent.

The poll delivered a decisive victory for pro-reform groups desperate to open up the Islamic republic and use the nuclear deal Tehran signed with six world powers in 2015 to improve foreign relations.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 12:51 pm

Yeah we laughed and criticized when Shillery sucks up to the Saudis, but I guess it's fine when Trump does it?

So what if the Saudis donated to Shill's campaign and not to Trump's? They got the exact same result from Trump. They just have realized that donating to any US political party was basically the same thing. Just more warmongering, meddling, supporting totalitarian Islamist socialists like the Saudis, who grant no human rights at all, and all because we are supposedly scared of... Iran? Give me a break.

This deal is purely a win for the deep state continues meddling in the ME, and of course a win for the military contractors who build and sell these weapons that Trump is now selling to the Saudis. It's not at all a win for the US.

Trump campaigned on stopping the warmongering and the ME meddling. Guess that's out the window now that someone from the cabal sat him down and had "the talk" with him.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 4:46 pm

Saudi Arabia is an openly autocratic Islamic fundamentalist monarchy state, massively socialist and relying almost entirely on oil money. They have some of the most restrictive "conservative" laws in the world, including laws forcing women how to dress and act in public. They have some of the highest rape rates in the world, and some of the highest rates of public ISIS-style (public beheading) executions in the world. There are no defense lawyers for people charged with a crime. They use the most conservative extreme interpretation of Islamic law, Wahhabism (which ISIS also accepts).

I fail to see how our support for this nonsense can be construed as anything but grossly immoral. We are supplying them with hundreds of billions of dollars in weapons. We prop them up in the region under some outdated Cold War mentality, as if Russia and Iran are our mortal enemies. Not that Iran is much better than Saudi Arabia. We shouldn't be picking sides in their medieval tribal feuds. Fuck this bullshit.

No wonder so many Muslims hate the west, considering how we meddle in their region and artificially prop up certain factions against others. What a fucking joke. Trump was supposed to help bring all this bullshit to an end, not cement it further into US policy.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 4:55 pm

More good times in the prominent US and now Trump ally, "the kingdom":


"Saudi officials continue to refuse to register political or human rights groups, leaving members subject to prosecution for “setting up an unregistered organization.” Saudi officials did not pass a long-awaited associations law in 2014, leaving Saudi citizens with no legal avenue to set up non-charity nongovernmental organizations.

Saudi Arabia does not tolerate public worship by adherents of religions other than Islam and systematically discriminates against Muslim religious minorities, notably Twelver Shia and Ismailis.

In May, a Jeddah court convicted activist Raif Badawi and sentenced him to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes for “insulting Islam” by founding a critical liberal website, and for his comments during television interviews. An appeals court upheld the sentence in September.


"Under this system, ministerial policies and practices forbid women from obtaining a passport, marrying, traveling, or accessing higher education without the approval of a male guardian, usually a husband, father, brother, or son.

Authorities also fail to prevent some employers from requiring male guardians to approve the hiring of adult female relatives or some hospitals from requiring male guardian approval for certain medical procedures for women. In February, a member of the Senior Council of Scholars,  the highest state body for the interpretation of Islamic law, issued a fatwa stating that women are not allowed to visit a male doctor without their male guardians. They are not allowed to expose parts of the body with the exception of a medical emergency.  

All women remain banned from driving in Saudi Arabia."


https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2015/country-chapters/saudi-arabia

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 4:57 pm

Yep, definitely the sort of place Trump should be bowing over to.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump is compromised   Sun May 21, 2017 4:57 pm

Anyway, fuck this shit. I am so fucking done with all of this.

 

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