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PostSubject: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:02 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/06/09/l-a-resist-rally-will-replace-gay-pride-rally/

And here, LGBT groups supporting Sharia law over members of their own LGBT "community" who are standing up to the fact that under Sharia gay people are given the death sentence, http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/10/gays-sharia-march-branded-islamophobic-will-picketed-lgbt-activists/


I fucking hate humanity.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:13 pm

One of the countries in which gays are given a death sentence: our wonderful "ally" Saudi Arabia.

I don't see Trump saying one fucking thing about that, either. Of course Obama never said anything about it either, but that is to be expected from fucking inhuman sociopathic garbage like him. Even Trump would rather just keep going with the neocon/neoliberal agenda of using them as a convenient ally, than actually stand up for a moral truth. So fuck the LGBT groups who would prefer their fellow gays are thrown from buildings and hung in much of the Islamic world (10 Islamic countries have the death penalty for homosexuality, which is part of Sharia), and fuck Trump too and anyone else who defends the Saudis and their fucking barbarism.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:16 pm

And that's only one aspect of Sharia. What about being beheaded for being an "apostate" (someone who says, "hey you know, this whole Islam religion thing is pretty stupid")? Half of worldwide Muslims surveyed by Pew (38,000 people total in the survey) agree that women should not have a choice to be veiled or not; around 80% surveyed want Sharia to be the law of the land wherever they happen to live.

I'm fucking done with anyone who wants to defend even one thread of this utter bullshit, or who wants to defend anyone else who defends it. I mean it, they can fucking rot for all I care. And I appreciate that Trump wants to limit some immigration, and he speaks out a little against Islam, but he has become so moderate and soft on the issue, he would never speak out against Sharia anymore and he is cozying up to the Wahhabi Saudis, as per usual for the cabal US presidents. So fuck him too.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:21 pm

How does Trump win massive support from both the left and the right, while also draining the swamp at the same time?

Very simple. All he has to do is go up on a press conference and say one sentence, and I guarantee he will win tons of support from both Democrats and Republicans:

"I will be happy for the United States to work with the Saudis, just as soon as they stop executing gay people and people who exercise free speech with respect to questioning Islam or any of its tenants, especially when it comes to the medieval and immoral barbarism known as Sharia law."



Of course if he actually said that, I am quite sure he would have an "accident" within the next 24 hours.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:26 pm


    Saudi law allows the death penalty for many crimes. For example:
    Adultery (Unmarried adulterers can be sentenced to 100 lashes, married ones can be sentenced to stoning.)[9]
    Atheism[28]
    Apostasy (Apostates are sentenced to beheading but are usually given three days to repent and return to Islam.)[8]
    Armed robbery[8]
    Blasphemy[8]
    Burglary
    Carjacking
    Aircraft hijacking
    Drug smuggling
    Fornication
    Home invasion
    Sodomy, homosexuality, or lesbianism (If a man or woman is sodomized by their own consent, then they will also be sentenced to death along with the sodomizer)
    Idolatry
    Murder[8]
    Rape[8]
    Sedition and
    Political crimes
    Sexual misconduct
    Sorcery
    Terrorism
    Theft (fourth conviction)
    Treason
    Human Trafficking
    Waging war on God[29][30]Witchcraft[10][11][12][13]


Yes you saw that right.... in addition to homosexuality, fornication and sodomy we have blasphemy, witchcraft, sorcery, and waging war on God. Yeah, fucking "waging war on God" and "sorcery". There aren't even words.

What in the flying fucking fuck is going on here. WHY THE FUCK IS TRUMP CONTINUING TO ALIGN WITH THESE PIECES OF SHIT?

Anyone who supports Trump better have a good reason for defending that above list. And I will give you a hint: there is no way to defend it.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:45 pm

We have democ(rats) in the US voting against bills for banning Sharia law and for banning female genital mutilation of little girls, we have so-called progressives and gays/trans people siding with Muslims who believe gays/trans people should not be allowed to have sex, teach in schools, or even should be killed. Gay/trans people worried about what Sharia (which most Muslims admit they want) says about their own sexuality are being called fascists and racists.

What has humanity come to? We are truly living in Nietzschean times. These values-clashes are going to shake the world to its core.

War is indeed coming.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:37 pm

Yep.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:42 pm

The precedent seems to be this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:44 pm

I mean in terms of causes, terms and tactics.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:49 pm

But this is way more advanced, the questions here are of the utmost significance. They arent about types of hypocrisy against each other, though that is the main tableau for the world to see, but deep down this is about reality itself, which reveals itself in the impossibility of uniting the different signifiers floating around in peoples minds nowadays - this is a time when no one is allowed or dares to draw a conclusion, a final thought resulting from some ideas - and this act, this truth-formulating is the war, as it looms on the horizon.

At the point where 'freedom' becomes a term signifying the compulsion to cut off ones sexual organs, the difference between stoning sweet women to death and freedom is diluting.

It is impossible to see the outcome of this war, this could go on forever. This could become the perpetual state of our species. Because one thing I need to recognize about the adversary is that it is creative. It is memetically extremely competent. So this is a war of biology versus memes- once more a prod to make some memes, but properly subversive, or inversive, or superversive ones, that act on a darker and less clear level than outright statements - the Weird is the world where the war will be won.

In Odins world, Orlog means the perpetual state of war that humanity is in terms of values, but as a kind of rhizomatic hierarchy of ancestry and praxis. In Dutch, Oorlog is still the word for War. In German that's Krieg, which signifies the act of riding out, slaying and conquering rather than an existential tension of existentia.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:59 pm

Wars inevitably end, I think that has to hold here too. Sure we can look at 1984 and understand the possibility that the world could become divided up like that, between supposedly warring sections of the globe that are all really in league to maintain the war forever and dominate/enslave humanity, but that view supposes a malleability and a lack of resolve and moral will that I think isn't the case when it comes to humanity as a species. We simply need alternating states of war and peace, war and peace are ways of settling values-disputes. Peace comes when war no longer achieves that end, and war comes when peace no longer achieves that end either.

Underneath ideas and beliefs and power-schemes are values, reason, the existential hard earth of the human consciousness. It is of these that cultures are an expression, and it must always be the case wherever there is war that it is a war of and between 'cultures', strongly or loosely defined.

Humans are too different from one another to ever be pushed into a single homogeneous group that tolerates the same values and ways of life, therefore a world culture isn't really possible, at least as I see it. Maybe in 1000 years, but certainly not soon. But I really cannot see European cultures standing up to Islamic cultures, therefore I simply write off Europe as dead.

America and South America will be different, I suspect. Russia, India and China too. None of these places will tolerate Islamism infesting their cultures.

So the alliances of the coming war will break down somewhere along those lines, with America, South American nations (to greater and lesser extents), India, China and Russia all in some kind of semi-alliance against the Middle East, North and mid-latitude Africa, and become-Islamic Europe. I am sure some European nations will resist being Islamified but most probably will not. So the EU will break apart into the pro-Islam and anti-Islam groups, each aligning to one side of the war.

Hm, what a weird idea. I am just speculating of course. But certainly some kind of open conflict is inevitable. Americans will certainly not roll over like Europeans are doing, and South Americans will not either. Russians and Chinese, also will never roll over.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:39 pm

this is before I read your last post. It pertains to the war for the psyche inside of the west.

This war is one we need to see in terms of generations.
It has been brought about by people that grew up in an entirely different paradigm of reality than we did - the Milennials are a threshold, a demon on the threshold, sex demons, willness besides their ultra powerful compulsions (naturally that always goes with many, many exceptions) and beyond it is this Generation Z, the people of the future, and they will just not be giving any shits for supposed moralities at all. They are our warriors, the ones whose hearts nature will conquer, and nature, in human terms, is called philosophy.


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in response to your last post, about the political war of the worlds, Ive described what I see happening from China in a few posts recently - look at the infrastructure deal with Pakistan they're making now, opening up the Arabian Gulf to them. Islam itself has an allusion to the increase of power in the men with the narrow eyes from the east announcing the end of times. I take this to be the end of times for that particular narrative, simply The End.

Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
desperately in need
of some strangers hand
in a desperate land

thats whats coming in the end: humanity. Even in humans.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:52 pm

This is all that would be required to stir up deference for reality and some thought in the hearts of those that arent truly over to the other side, walking dead -; 'you do know humanity is coming, right?'

'....end your schemes, humanity is knocking
humanity has no mercy for those that chose to be subhuman
humanity takes care of its own
humanity doesnt take orders
humanity is its own law
it is coming and you need to gear up
and celebrate
or you will have these demons you carry with you cut you up!
But that too is your free choice -
humanity doesnt force anyone to be part of it.

etc.
Scare these fuckers, as it is true that they have simply already lost by starting a war from that perspective. They can't win, there is nothing to win. They in fact only seek oblivion.

It's probably the best thing to start seeing it as a cosmic joke. No joke by any entity, just by the truth itself, played on itself, as truth must really have an intense existence full of the weirdest songs. This is part of one of the weirdest, and loudest of them all. I should assume, vainly.



 

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PostSubject: Re: Homosexual rights less important than "resisting" Trump    Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:17 am

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I fucking hate humanity.

I totally understand your feelings.

The "dumbing down of Americans" has worked pretty good, hasn't it?

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