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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 08, 2018 12:30 am



Lol.

Yeah, this is why I don’t talk to lefts anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2018 9:43 am

I am doing some religious ideological analysis in a historical sense with regard to what is going to happen once the economic collapse and war kicks off, they will start it either under Trump or else wait until after his terms are done and then start it. Either way it is coming, I am certain of that. These immense tensions are going to be forced to the surface seeking their resolution... much death will come, and much death will also be averted. But the last man, holy fuck but I am thinking now that we are in a situation akin to the Roman Empire at its last days, after its conversion to the Holy Roman Empire under Christian ideology-delusion and then once the Empire fell apart you had this ideological foundation cementing itself even further. The power of the Catholic Church became nearly infinite, once the Roman political order collapsed and fragmented, giving us the dark ages. 

So today there is a parallel: the modern Western World, under US and European leadership, constitute a sort of empire based on what are ultimately rationalistic, logical, Roman systems and values, but this empire is approaching its terminus. What will happen once the US and Europe really do fall apart in a much more real sense? Well the EU will cease to exist in its current form, Balkanization will take pace, the EU might survive in a smaller German-centered form perhaps with Germany taking control of a vew other Euro states as vassels, but for the most part there will be a return to national consciousness... this is good, except that we need to remember what happened in Rome when their empire fell apart. The "national consciousness" that emerged was buttressed by the new ideological power at the time, namely Christianity. It had spread so far and wide by that point that once the glue power of the empire was not there to enforce order and diffuse irrationalities at the level of the fundament, as well as at the level of the fundament in conflict with the older more pagan religions, the new religion took over and became hyper-virulent. This was the dark ages of course. So today, we are facing the similar prospect that once the US loses its central role of empire, and once European states lose a lot of their own power too, what little they might have left beyond their own regional borders at this point, then we might see the exact same thing happen: the new ideological-religious power is going to diffuse, take hold in local regions, and become even more virulent than it already is. What is this new ideological-religious power? It is leftism, of course. Marxism, really, and Marxism evolved into this more recent very extreme postmodern SJW cultural marxism format. It is sweeping the west, we can already see that. Well should we be surprised? Christianity also swept through Rome. And we should remember that modern leftism/cultural Marxism is little more than the next step in the evolution of Christian ideology-delusion (false consciousness, i.e. hyper-delusional hyper-moralism).

When the collapse and war comes, we might be tempted to say that reality will reassert itself against all this leftist nonsense, but if we look at history in Rome we might conclude that collapse and war will actually permanently cement this new iteration of Christian madness, namely modern and postmodern ultra-leftism, across the western world. I can easily imagine this being buttressed by technology, basically companies like Google and Apple will be able to survive the collapse due to their massive stockpiles of capital and their political influences, they will grow even more as they take over many other mid to small companies and assemble them together in new ways, ways that whatever is left of local and state governments will support as a means to maintaining social and economic order... then you will have smart phones and the internet basically used outright for control and spying, the things that go on now "in secret" will be openly practiced toward an openly moralistic end... that moralistic end is simply going to be leftism. 

Leftism is not going to die when collapse and war comes, rather leftism will become the new global religion. The first world war brought the huge spread of leftism, into Russia for example and throughout Europe, and into S America... the second world war further expanded the spread of leftism, primarily into China and into the US, and more so throughout Europe as well, under the surfaces. Now the third world war will knock down the structures of empire and wash away all contact with reality, ushering in a new dark ages buttressed by technological supergiants like Google and Apple and Facebook, and upon the new moralistic religion-ideology of cultural marxism. 

I wonder where Islam fits into all this? Islam is basically an archaic version of the old form of the new religion. Since Christianity in its formal sense is the old form of the new religion of leftism, you will have Christians and Muslims being converted into the new religion en mass, into cultural marxist leftists, or simply being purged. Islam is being used like the invasion of the barbarian hordes right now, to destabilize the empire, but once the empire collapses those same barbarians will either convert or be chased back to the third world where they came from. The flip will be sudden and easy to manage: the leftists in control will simply proclaim in true Soviet fashion that openly religious people are a threat to the new Cultural Marxist Utopia and these people will be sent back to the third world, killed, or made to convert (abandon their religion). But how does that coincide with leftism and its love of "marginalized groups" and "tolerance"? Haha. We already know such things are a lie. The leftist is the most violent and aggressive of all, once the proper conditions are set up in whatever remains of the leftist's soul. We should be looking at the USSR in its early days, to understand what is probably coming soon to us here in the US and Europe. Another thing about Muslims, they are 90%+ pro-statism and pro-fascism, so long as it accords with their own hyper-delusional hyper-moralism. So the spread of Islam and Muslim sentiment generally is only going to provide a firmer basis for the creation of new totalitarian political and economic orders, especially when it comes to tech or media giants like CNN, Google and Apple which are little more than the precursors to a future Ministry of Information that exerts near absolute legal control over everybody and over all information.

Another possibility is that Muslims will be allowed or somehow manage to secure for themselves micro-states within the US and Europe, little Islamic nations that exist separate from the larger super-leftist utopian states. Micro-states focused around Christianity will probably also emerge. Although people today severely overestimate the continuing influence of Christianity, it is in severe decline and only seems strong in the west because of the large population of people over the age of 40; once elderly and mid-age people today are mostly gone, say in 30 or 40 more years, the percentage of people in the US identifying as Christian will drop from whatever it is right now, 70% or something, to far less than half that, probably around 20% or less. By that point you will have more people identifying as Muslims than as Christians (this is probably already the case in Europe, or soon to be).
 
Bottom line is that Christianity is an outdated format for the ideological foundation (is being made to be outdated, just as Christianity made the Roman-Greek pagan system to be outdated), and once Empire collapses the newly updated and "evolved" format of extreme leftism (with the state being the only god) will truly take over. How is the state made into a god? All values are tied directly or indirectly to the state, the leftist is made to associate his/her self-valuing and all values to the survival and prosperity of the state, to government as such, and the government-state is more than happy to assume that stature of power and primacy. Leftists are so delusional that, as Orwell knew, they will employ complex psychological tricks on themselves to evade reality at every turn in order to maintain the lie. And even if one or two of them might be tempted to acknowledge the reality, it will be illegal to do that. Thought crime is literally what "hate speech" is, there is absolutely no difference. And Google and all these other companies are going to get even better at seeing what is really in our thoughts, to the point where like in 1984 it will be virtually impossible to hide from the new power structure. Then reality will die in the human world, the new dark ages will have begun, the old will be swept away as the Marxists are always preaching about, war will become endless and endlessly psychological, and the last man will live longest.
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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 7:25 pm

Let down again.



Fuck.

It is my fault.



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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 7:44 pm

Thrasymachus wrote:
Let down again.



Fuck.

It is my fault.



"Never trust a leftist." --Han Solo
hahaha

yeah man exactly. Different species. 

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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 8:01 pm

Regarding the collapse you predict, a Machiavellian question - what kind of stocks or securities or currencies or resources may increase in value, which one would drop fastest?

Germany is a marginal culture in Europe, France is where it's at, at night the Cevennes or at the Dordogne there is eternal Europa, and Italy is the root and the main supply of goods and all, Germany isn't capable of much but destroying stuff - N and Marx were also destroyers, as was Beethoven and Einstein - none o them were Michelangelo or Copernicus, no Alexander or Caesar but Khan. Runes are Norse and Icelandic and Danish and Dutch and English and Russian - not as much Swedish or German. Germans aren't Vikings. They are... Germans. A kind of western Poles. Oblivious to enjoyment beyond the mot basic elements given to animals. They only offer ring-sausage and cabbage.

Yes, it has a great power as a language. But as a state-form, such grinding insolence before nature is just not working out, for anyone. certainly Germans are much happier under French conditions. Of course no Frenchman ever visits Germany, where Germans do everything t get out of their own country. Eve in the 50s, right after they had been removed, they are already bloating at our beaches, digging their big holes, graves for themselves to lie in or something. All of the old ones still respond to the Hitler salute, pure instinct of their true nature. German power is something to be overcome, it is the cynical part of the Industrial Age.
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Regarding the collapse you predict, a Machiavellian question - what kind of stocks or securities or currencies or resources may increase in value, which one would drop fastest?

Germany is a marginal culture in Europe, France is where it's at, at night the Cevennes or at the Dordogne there is eternal Europa, and Italy is the root and the main supply of goods and all, Germany isn't capable of much but destroying stuff - N and Marx were also destroyers, as was Beethoven and Einstein - none o them were Michelangelo or Copernicus, no Alexander or Caesar but Khan. Runes are Norse and Icelandic and Danish and Dutch and English and Russian - not as much Swedish or German. Germans aren't Vikings. They are... Germans. A kind of western Poles. Oblivious to enjoyment beyond the mot basic elements given to animals. They only offer ring-sausage and cabbage.

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Yes, it has a great power as a language. But as a state-form, such grinding insolence before nature is just not working out, for anyone. certainly Germans are much happier under French conditions. Of course no Frenchman ever visits Germany, where Germans do everything t get out of their own country. Eve in the 50s, right after they had been removed, they are already bloating at our beaches, digging their big holes, graves for themselves to lie in or something. All of the old ones still respond to the Hitler salute, pure instinct of their true nature. German power is something to be overcome, it is the cynical part of the Industrial Age.

France and Italy, as culture. That is where it is at. YO
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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 8:45 pm

‘Guns save lives.’

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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 8:46 pm

Thrasymachus wrote:
‘Guns save lives.’

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You know what? I really fucking love being god.

Just saying.
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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 12, 2018 7:33 am

Leftism is a virulent form of pseudo-intellectualism. Tickles people's vanity to be able to say things like "patriarchy" and "collective liberation" and all that bullshit.

A political movement that figured out how to deepen ideology to new levels.
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PostSubject: Re: Lefts   Lefts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 12, 2018 7:52 am

Basically these people do not know how to think properly, much less philosophize, so they just rent out their cognitive faculties to this system of made-up concepts in order to score points with other in-groupie "feel-good-ers" like themselves. That's leftism boiled down to its basic essence.

You could also get into the psychology behind why some people are so attracted to this sort of thing, but that is a somewhat separate question. If you want to understand what leftism is, this above is the explanation.
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