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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:33 am | |
| Meantimely, - Breitbart wrote:
- Austria’s populist government made the announcement on Friday morning at a press conference as part of the governing coalition’s campaign against radical Islamic ideology and the influence of countries like Turkey in the Austrian Islamic community, Kronen Zeitung reports.
Media reports that between 40 and 60 imams, including their families, could be expelled in total. The imams all stand accused of receiving funding from abroad. Official investigations have been launched in 11 cases. Two of the imams had already been denied extensions to their residency permits.
Among the mosques facing closure is the Mosque of the Grey Wolves on Antonsplatz, in the working-class Vienna district of Favoriten, where the Gallipoli reenactment took place.
The other six mosques are in Vienna, Upper Austria and Carinthia, in all of which hardline salafist teachings are said to be widespread.
Mr. Erdogan, speaking Saturday, said: “They say they’re going to kick our religious men out of Austria. Do you think we will not react if you do such a thing?”
“That means we’re going to have to do something,” he added without elaborating. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:58 am | |
| And a Trump Tower, looool
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:42 am | |
| God damn what universe do we live in now. This is incredible. Who could have seen this coming. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:43 am | |
| America saves the world, part 1.
Now on to part 2. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:23 pm | |
| Do you feel like you are only witnessing it? I consider myself to be one of the main engines of it all -- and I really think the world needs us to recognize this responsibility - it can't afford to have us try to maneuver ourselves into the background, as there is no one else close to being capable of doing the crucial work that is being done here. VO is the heart of the planet, the word of the coming age. Call me MAGALOMANIC. Meanwhile in death; Robert De Niro had another episode where he slandered the president on some award show for pedophiles. It was printed in all sort of liberal magazines, but look at the comments, here at some thing called variety.com, seemingly a liberal poodle-den; some Kropotkins remain but this is quite incredible. - Quote :
- Richard Terrell says:
JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:19 AM Why is anyone shocked? This is what these people ARE and what they DO. And they are very much a part of the Democatic Party constituency. Hate-filled, crude, pretentious, arrogant, morally-superior-in-their-own-eyes. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Eric says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:18 AM Wow! I just can believe or understand how some can be so upset @ Deniro when #45 says/tweets irrational foul comments at times. I’m neither republican or democrat. Just an American that’s served this beautiful country that I no longer recognize. The hypocrisy is real with #45. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Dave says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:18 AM DeNiro uses an entertainment venue to make the most disparaging statements about our President as the liberal elite from both coasts give him a standing ovation. Trumps a shoe-in in 2020. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Allen Clark says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:18 AM What an idiot. REPLY REPORT COMMENT eric-in-NJ says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:18 AM Poor, senile fool. Over the weekend I saw that Bill Maher is rooting for a recession. Since there is no standard bearer for the left, rather they rely on the likes of Hollywood, late night comedians, and professional athletes to get out their message the “blue wave” in 2018 seems more unlikely and the Donald looks great for 2020. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Allen Clark says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:17 AM What a freaken idiot. I feels safe to say and do what ever he wants because he has enough money to survive any boycott and he has all the celebrities in Hollywood to support him. Those people are so full of themselves that they actually think they speak for the entire country. What they do not know is they speak for nobody. REPLY REPORT COMMENT MrWriteSF says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:17 AM BTW, all of you haters of the “Shallowwood liberal elite”–what are you doing here? Shouldn’t you have burst into flames at the very appearance of an entertainment website? REPLY REPORT COMMENT Raule Chale says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:17 AM Look how many awful people at the Tonys were clapping and standing. Democrats/Leftists, now being the party of hate, are going to lose big in 2018 and 2020. There are a lot of people in that audience that feel bullied and are feeling pressure to not speak out about the injustice of the left. Just as in the #metoo movement. These frightened actors that hate to see what is happening can feel safe when they go into the voting booth. If there is a huge landslide for Trump, the leftists will have to change REPLY REPORT COMMENT Victory says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:16 AM I didn’t think DE Niro is capable of class or Intellect -He REMOVED ALL DOUBTS! When liberal filth is Incapable to debate intelligently (which is 99,9 % of the time) they reserve to foul language!! REPLY REPORT COMMENT SickOfIt says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:16 AM Just cancelled my CBS All Access subscription. Sick of DeNiro and liberal obscenity. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Lib Serum says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:16 AM Lets see how Broadway does this season. What to place bets? and ps . F Bob – lets just remember F Bob in our prayers. =) REPLY REPORT COMMENT SBA says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:16 AM Bobby, you do know that your best buddy Harvey Weinstein is in deep shit, right? And you know he’s singing, right? Just checking. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Ali says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:15 AM DeNIro is now a gross old man, looking for notice. I knew what he said as soon as he was censored. I took that moment to turn off the TV. Liberal entertainers be warned: preaching to your choir is easy, any coward can do that. Americans are sick of it and are tuning you out. And just think, what if he had said, “F_ck Obama” or F_ck Hillary? He would have been killed on the spot. REPLY REPORT COMMENT mustcrochet says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:15 AM This is why the entertainment business is in the toilet. These prima dona’s don’t entertain anymore. They think they are politically astute just because they are famous, can memorize lines and emote on stage or before a camera. Their ego’s are the size of the expanse of the universe. With that much conceit, they no longer think like your average Joe or Jane. We don’t give a flying fig what DeNiro or Oprah or Streep or Penn or any of these self-absorbed whiners have to say. Do your job – entertain or shut up and go away. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Jenni says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:15 AM He needs to be tested for onset of dementia. Loss of inhibitions and feeling the need to act as he did sends up some warning flags. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Frederick C. Delano says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:15 AM So sad. President is now trying to seek peace with NK & DeNiro is ranting…so sick!! REPLY REPORT COMMENT mar100 says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:15 AM Bravo. Now all know how unhinged De Niro is and how irrelevant he is! This is a good reason to not attend a Broadway Shor or Motion Picture! Hey Robert, take your opinion and go stuff it where the sun doesn’t shine! REPLY REPORT COMMENT MrWriteSF says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:15 AM “And he used his vile attack while high school students where there to sing a song…” And those students probably wouldn’t have been there if tRump and Republican toadies decided to protect children instead of supporting the NRA. REPLY REPORT COMMENT fred says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:13 AM Oh, how the mighty have fallen. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Jonathan Swift says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:12 AM D’nero is a drug addict …He needs help before he hangs himself… REPLY REPORT COMMENT Larry says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:12 AM When I see a movie with him in it, will get 1 star period I don’t care I hate that idiot. I know his ratings are way down just an old stupid Hollywood dum ass. You never hear Hollywood stressing for immigrants to migrate there I think they should right on De Niro property surely he supports them and should welcome them all over his lawn. All these Hollywood actors should welcome them on their property they love them so much . Hummmm really????. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Ice Star says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:12 AM TDS at its worst. Where was he when Obama was destroying the country? President Trump has brought us prosperity after 10 years of Democrat rule, 8 of which was the Obama nightmare. He needs to get medicated and move into an old folks home for.the demented REPLY REPORT COMMENT dan says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:11 AM F denero, he bytes dill weed. REPLY REPORT COMMENT lindaveesado says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:11 AM Only proves how sick the Hollywood culture is. Thanks for guaranteeing Trump 4 more years though. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Frank Peltz says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:10 AM Yes, what a horror peace and prosperity are, We can’t have too much of that now can we? Maybe Hollywood can take up the slack with some more of the mind trash they call entertainment. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Gary says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:10 AM I work in the Hollywood entertainment industry and I feel this sickening display by Robert De Niro was completely out of line. If you hate Trump, fine, but don’t share that hate with the multitudes of innocent children who happen to be watch the Tony’s with their parents. De Niro is a douchebag, a clown who should have been chastised in front of everyone at then thrown out the back door of the theater. #MakeHollywoodGreatAgain REPLY REPORT COMMENT Paul Sturrock says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:10 AM Robert, you amuse us greatly. Please — PLEASE — don’t stop making these wonderfully stupid comments. I’ve been laughing all morning. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Rroberto says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:10 AM So, that answer to hating Trump is to curse like a teenager at an event where famous people are giving out awards to other famous people. Yeah, pretty effective. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Steve Taikowski says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:09 AM Sounds like he was drunk and had diarrhea of the mouth REPLY REPORT COMMENT Georgiana says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:09 AM Liberals are no different then terrorists. What a pathetic group of thugs. Thanks for sending more conservatives to the polls, Trump 2020. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Brick Stonehead says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:09 AM Deniro is revealing how small and petty he really is. What a knob ! Did he really spend years making films so that he could DO THIS at the end of his life ? REPLY REPORT COMMENT Chuck says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:08 AM The TRUMPTURDS are out in force today REPLY REPORT COMMENT Gary says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:13 AM Really Chuck. You condone this crap. The Tony’s are a family show. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Chris Judd says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:08 AM I used to have a lot of respect and admiration for Robert De Niro in his films but comments like this has driven me away from watching any new movies that comes from Hollywood. For 8 years we set and watch the apologist Obama totally ruin this great country. Now we have a leader who is putting the common American people first and it’s driving the elite insane. God bless Trump and I pray he get reelected. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Doug says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:08 AM Thanks De Niro, from Trump fans!!, this will put Trump candidates in November WAY OVER THE TOP! REPLY REPORT COMMENT drose says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:07 AM Actors just can’t stop acting. With his best years “in the can” as the movie makers liked to say, Robert is left with just himself…a worn out, tired, liberal, with nothing but bile coming out all of his orifices, and its difficult to tell exactly which one he uses to speak. REPLY REPORT COMMENT BJ says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:07 AM How pathetic was that! De Niro attacks the President of the United States while he’s trying to bring a semblance of peace to the Korea’s, and he gets a standing ovation. And he used his vile attack while high school students where there to sing a song. What a pathetic and unaware human being! Jack is correct. Every time these celebrity elites swear at our President, they assure his re-election. Historically, actors in the past were considered the scum of the earth. De Niro and the sycophants who gave him a prolonged standing ovations confirmed that historical assessment. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Lindsey Young says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:06 AM Scene: A dark and dingy bar in Hollywood. A drunk and washed up actor slumped over his drink muttering “F Trump, F Trump, F America” The year 2020…The re-election of President Trump! And cut… REPLY REPORT COMMENT Chris Judd says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:13 AM ???????????????????????? REPLY REPORT COMMENT MIke says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:04 AM Most of Hollywood consists of ignorant high-school grads spending their lives pretending they are something they are not. They contribute nothing to society other than to entertain. We are not interested in your childish thoughts children, just shut up and dance. REPLY REPORT COMMENT briank05 says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:03 AM You snowflakes can’t handle a little bad language about the president? Poor babies! REPLY REPORT COMMENT atiboy says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:03 AM Liberalism is truly a disease! REPLY REPORT COMMENT Grace says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:03 AM Tony Awards? Didn’t know it was on, as most didn’t know. So end result, no one cares. The tree fell in the forest and no one was around to hear it. i.e. no one cares about the Tony awards or who was in it. They were preaching to their own choir. REPLY REPORT COMMENT tony coza says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:02 AM Ironic…..that’s all I can say about springsteen’s choice of the song he chose to sing last night. The jobs are back, Bruce and Bobby. Long lines at all the stores on the weekends. Here in Cali, the mix was about 90% Hispanic and minorities. All happy with happy kids. One of the lines I waited in had I had a group of 6 Mexicans who had graduated the day before al going on a trip to Europe!! They had all worked and saved up. I asked if any older siblings had done the same and they all said no way. In short that all explained (without knowing so) that it was o possible for the previous 9 years as they explained how many of their parents were unemployed for long stretches durring the Obama admin. Lastly, Bruce should ditch his working class hero image and songs. If he really believed in those words he would appreciate what trump is doing for us working folks down here. The minorities who suffered so much under Obama are now in line for the American dream they left their countries for. F deniro and all you elitists. REPLY REPORT COMMENT ia says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:02 AM Why do we need movie stars? Are they that good compared to thousands of other actors out there? Personally, I’m mystified by their appeal. I’d be happy if there was a lottery for hollywood movie parts in all films. They are clamoring endlessly about inclusion so let them share the spotlight with other deserving professional actors. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Phelonius says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:02 AM So disappointed to see you behaving this way, Mr. De Niro! You have lost my respect. I thought you were a “class act” — I was wrong. REPLY REPORT COMMENT reg Dahl says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:02 AM Wow. What a legacy you and Weinstein have created! REPLY REPORT COMMENT Kevin J McCann says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:01 AM Robert who? Was it his long lost relative that “fiddled while Rome burned”? REPLY REPORT COMMENT RightStuff1944 says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:01 AM Simply, De Niro’s behavior (and his clapping seals) is due to a failure to achieve responsible adulthood. Please grow up, Robert! REPLY REPORT COMMENT Fedup says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:00 AM What a disgusting human being. Robert DeNiro is a whitewashed pigpen. God will have a literal field day with him one day. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Debra Squitieri says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:00 AM Doesn’t he have a clue as to just how stupid he sounds? What an idiot. No reason other than hate that he says this. Those standing and clapping, remember Karma? She’s comin for you. REPLY REPORT COMMENT Theresa Freund says: JUNE 11, 2018 AT 9:00 AM Really that’s all you got?! You could used that time to say something positive. Why you so ????. Oh I know you looked in the mirror and saw a bag of walnuts right? Sit down Bobby you’re done! | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:36 pm | |
| These comments are priceless.
"Deniro is revealing how small and petty he really is. What a knob ! Did he really spend years making films so that he could DO THIS at the end of his life ?" | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:57 pm | |
| When philosophy was completed, a noble politics could be conceived.
And so it happened.
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:10 pm | |
| Now that sv-logic is being put into practice and demonstrated on the highest order of power, the only occlusion can be duty, to keep this going.
regardless of how few people know vo now and even fewer who will recognize its role in the current events, there is no turning back now.
Truth is alive. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:14 pm | |
| VO logic is indeed taking over. It is the natural evolution of philosophy and is thus manifesting as politics too.
Perhaps we must rethink the relationship between philosophy and politics; perhaps truths and new philosophy appears in the world first as politics. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:20 pm | |
| Im not trying to stroke my balls here or whatever.
I sincerely think it is our, or at least my responsibility to claim this victory on behalf of the whole philosophical struggle which found its completion in VO.
I then set out a timeline and Trump is making this timeline come true. But we all made Trump come true.
P - I spent the whole election night with the gods, making sure I kept nothing that I had in me back, I gave it all for Trumps win.
And then he fucking DID IT.
-- T - just see your post.
"perhaps truths and new philosophy appears in the world first as politics."
Yes, I think this has been the case in different instances. And the closer philosophy comes to describing reality, the more inevitable it is that it takes a shaping role in reality from that point onward.
I don't know how exactly it all communicates, I know it does through many different paths, and I know we have been having very interesting visitors since 2011. But mainly, valuing as the primacy allows us to understand how developments can occur in parallel to and as a consequence of recent other developments without them directly crossing paths; we see this in nature a lot, discoveries being picked up on across the world without messengers - when the time is right, when the world is ripe for it. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:39 pm | |
| For me this self-valuing of VO is implicit in the 4 of us here. It is the kingly reward to be among kings.
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:45 pm | |
| I love how Canada has many huge tariffs on US goods, but as soon as Trump puts some tariffs on Canadian goods everyone freaks out, including Justine Pretty Boy (?) Trudeau. Lol.
Trump doesn’t even want tariffs, he wants fair trade with no tariffs but he isn’t going to allow the US to put up with it from our so called trading partners. US trade deficits basically sustain the fake economy abroad, a billion dollars a day. Trump is saying “no more, it’s not good for Americans”. And of course he is right. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:52 pm | |
| - Thrasymachus wrote:
- I love how Canada has many huge tariffs on US goods, but as soon as Trump puts some tariffs on Canadian goods everyone freaks out, including Justine Pretty Boy (?) Trudeau. Lol.
Trump doesn’t even want tariffs, he wants fair trade with no tariffs but he isn’t going to allow the US to put up with it from our so called trading partners. US trade deficits basically sustain the fake economy abroad, a billion dollars a day. Trump is saying “no more, it’s not good for Americans”. And of course he is right. I think the fuckers got the message. Certainly their constituency did. I remember when the carpenter from whom I bought the van posted this on Facebook with a single word above it; malade... | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:00 pm | |
| The internets are mighty. - interweb wrote:
- ("YHWH God of Hosts"), Elohe Tzevaot ("God of Hosts"), Adonai YHWH Tzevaot ("Lord YHWH of Hosts") or, most frequently, YHWH Tzevaot ("YHWH of Hosts").
Heres the other pic. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:34 pm | |
| Well it's not all roses. It IS a war.
What's going on in Turkey is dangerous and it's really only being contained by the benefits of being a NATO ally.
But internally, and you might think I'm exaggerating, Erdogan has been doing exactly what Chavez did. It's a creepily similar vibe. The secular side is being crushed little by little. Once the world truly notices it will be too late, they will be neutered and mostly simply have emmigrated. The constitucional reform is what brought the parallel home for me. Except Chavez and his people had no contacto with effective económica government, so it collapsed. Turkey is unlikely to collapse in such a way.
I think the anti-Uslam international efforts are going to be The main tool for this. Islam representa one of the toughest, most blood thirsty and hell bent warriors in this war. They must be treated with thta same extremity of consequences, both empirically as with Iran and symbollically as with the Austria case you pointed out. Fuck. Your caliphate.
Also with the Kurds. I agree with the real need. But they are being given some de facto governance by US and allies over some territory. They are gaining ground and know it. They put all their money on the USA horse and its paying off. Still. The communists. They will probably insure that the process is allowed to progress but slowly and tortuously. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:37 pm | |
| If NK happens, and 90% chance it does... Not only the económica renaissance, huge as you say, but the equivalent of taking China's rook, or bishop at least.
But it does appear that NK mainly wants a China style economy, and ifwhen deal goes through will likely importante many chinese economic advisors. Nothing US could do about this without imperilling the bigger win.
The China game is a long game. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:39 pm | |
| I don't think China really cares about NK. They want them denuclearized too. NK is just a pawn that gives China some leverage, so naturally China doesn't want that leverage taken away; but at the end of the day, China really doesn't give a shit about little rocket man and his tiny little tyranny. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:04 pm | |
| - Pezer wrote:
- If NK happens, and 90% chance it does... Not only the económica renaissance, huge as you say, but the equivalent of taking China's rook, or bishop at least.
But it does appear that NK mainly wants a China style economy, and ifwhen deal goes through will likely importante many chinese economic advisors. Nothing US could do about this without imperilling the bigger win.
Yes, NK will remain Chinas territory of course but now that Trump has managed to show them that not all westerners are retards and without self-respect, they are subtly shifting into a paradigm of more transparent trade and industry, where NK will function as a filter where it was first a wall, and a catalyst where it was first a damper in what ultimately should become US-Japan-China-Russia block of integrated diplomacies and a vast economic turbulence will erupt that is all coming to pass under the magnificently stable signifier of the rational mutual self interest of invincible powers. In this case European wannabe powers will have no choice but to Man up, break free of Merkels nanny-economy and just fucking rip it. - Quote :
- The China game is a long game.
Heh. Yes, so much so that the notion of reincarnation may have been invented just tot suit their game. But all jest aside, my father was on a state visit there in the early 80s, he told me party members speak of projects two thousand years ago and six hundred years ahead in the way our politicians speak of todays and yesterdays news. NK has a slow and long way to go like wood producing a flower, and slowly opening it. It is the greatest resource of economic growth imaginable, such a completely contrasting entity full of the purest discipline and will to self-manifest. Their Rare Earth doesn't hurt either. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:09 pm | |
| I would be fine if Russia and China just split up NK between themselves. Or maybe split it three ways, add in South Korea too and let NK'ans choose which of those three areas they want to move to. | |
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| Subject: Re: Trumpf Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:10 pm | |
| What I mean by long game is that China knows, as KissingerNixon knew and probably TrumpPompeo know, that nobody is invincible in the long run.
Gradual chess, you might call it. | |
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