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PostSubject: Socalism as feudal lordship   Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:49 pm

Im just realizing this watching this documentary,
http://watchdocumentaries.com/the-two-escobars/
which puts it a lot sharper than the Narcos show, that Escobar was alleviating the suffering of a lot of desperately poor people, and only turned to war on his country when they wouldn't guarantee that he'd not be extradited.
The way he operated makes me interpret him as a kind of lonesome successful socialist, one of the few people who make enough money to meaningfully redistribute it to actually do that.
This then brought home the inevitable conclusion that Socialism is a Patronage, paid for with means outside any normative order. Wondrously fitting also to Socialist states of lesser efficiency than the Medellin cartel.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:09 pm

Quid pro quo. I deal my drugs, you get your football stadium and electricity and the like.

Some will think this is cynical. Fucking idiots. Fucking idiots who's absolute cowardice and refusal to realize what hardship as a transgenerational way of life means.

Chavez, Escobar, El Chapo. These men are loved, even still today, for a reason. Nothing fake about it, homeslice.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:14 am

No doubt.
After seeing a bit of material on the Escobar situation I realize he might actually have been an efficient leader.
If only the US didn't hate it's own addiction to coca it probably would have happened.
He definitely wasn't just drug maker, he was a Colombian.



 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:18 am

And what he did as a response to his government allowing extradition is nothing short of Just. Gotta let the cowards and traitors feel what they are.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:21 am

can’t have too much product coming from south america, the cia doesn’t like competition with their poppy fields in afghanistan.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:15 am

I rather think the CIA needed to own and control the means of production in SA, just as they set up shop in Afghanistanistan. After all coca and poppy are different markets.

It was noted recently to me that around 1900, basically all medicines were based on either coca, poppy or hemp.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:21 pm

They didnt like people who were noisy in the wrong way. Mexican half human genocidal nuts are fine, but a Chapo or an Escobar giving SAns the idea that these are fair industries that could greatly benefits them, nuh uh.

These days the coke is run much more discreetly by Bolivians who just make it, take their slice and lay low and then send it through the mexican psychos demócrats love so much or the Venezuelan gvmt lol who make Escobar look like an aficionado.

Nobody makes it política. Except Hezbollah, thankfuly thus putting a big bulls eye on their backs.

But yes, lotta potencial down there. There's time enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:57 pm

Free marketing capitalista could claim this cause. Kill many birds with one stone.

Start responsable pharmaceutical and recreational industries for these productos.

The world wants them. Why should psycho thugs be the ones who benefits? Ir socialista who = psycho thugs?

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:51 pm

Yes, literally the only problem with these goods is that they are too valuable.

Their value is in the power to fundamentally change experience, being. A barrel of oil or a shoebox of opium?

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:02 pm

Unless you're in direct need of oil for a task that you can't pay someone to do, the price of such profound luxury will exceed that of use-resources.

On the other hand there is quantity, oil I used in a cosmic number of process on earth - but still, these fine rug producing plants form an unprecedented opportunity for highly unbalanced wealth distributions, and therefore it is crime and politics, syndicate-forming, that accompanies it as a culture.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:09 pm

The syndicate of forbidden pleasures on which the world runs
(at once pleasures, the forbidding of it, and the forbidden substances)

SFP
Or short; THE SYNDICATE

or shorter, Syndicate.
It is the end of democracy; all voices narrowed down to a boardroom full of mirrors.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:10 pm

and you know which way these mirrors are facing.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:28 pm

We don't gotta have it all figured out yet. Enough to know there's something there.

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:25 pm

this is why in the future we will buy our weekly allowance of synthetic opioid injectables from the government at subsidy or form disney at slightly more markup (but better product), and real emotions will be illegal. there will be an easy to detect maximum threshold of feeling, anyone going above that gets committed on lithium.

but yeah, let’s just say drugs are good. sure why not, fuck the end game right
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:39 pm

What's the end game?
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:52 pm

Listen, check it.

Right now the assimilated drug feelings of the world are drunk and like coffee.

But what could the world do with some coke and maybe high grade weed and some MDMA outside of the periphery?

I'm just a Steve Jobs without yet Wozniack, don't know the thing how it's going look.

LSD.

But it's gonnar be great. Just great.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:30 pm

Right health. The end game is health.

We're working on it, have some faith.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:38 am

humans selling themselves and their world, their power, for a quick and easy drug high. that’s basically leftism in a nutshell. disney sells movies, they really sell emotions and not too long from now they’ll be selling emotions directly, once the tech catches up and society becomes “progressive” enough to accept such things.

your feelings are your own, value. i don’t mind drugs, some less than others, but the risk is always to give up ownership of oneself in the (over)use of the drugs. especially to become financially or otherwise beholden to those who provide the drugs. that’s why a clean capitalist black market is best for drugs. state control over drugs is far more dangerous.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:52 am

I think it's a little more complicated.

I know, complicated isn't very popular. But that's what I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:21 am

The problem with putting drugs on the black market vs legalizing them is seen by the prohibition (of booze).
It it not great for the quality, to begin with.

I think loosely state supervised drugs are better, what Ive come to think having smoked US and Canadian weed, and seen how massively they have improved under the auspices of the "medical marijuana" laws.
Canadian weed is gold. It was still nominally illegal, but not really, a lot of medical grade is deliberately being disseminated into the "street" market.

Since everyone knows what good weed is these days, it will be hard for a government regulated drug market to run on inferior product, as is the great fear of anti-legalizers here.

With opium and cocaine, stuff I don't use, I don't have as much of an opinion, but whats certain is that the illegality of the opium trade has cost us citizens between two an three trillion dollars, funding the war in Afghanistan, which is, as everyone knows by now, perpetuated strictly to secure the poppy fields. Imagine the actual profits the clandestine state makes with this, if it is worth trillions in investment.

Of course its not that simple as these trillions are in part spent with weapon manufacturers who are in the same layers as the opium harvesters, but what is certain is that the profits of the black opium market are all flowing to the deep state. Im not sure that this is preferable to a regular taxed industry where non kartel people can make money off them too.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:27 am

Lol that's Vzla level, not US level.

Think about this. If you are a gvt agency for the country with all of the planet's most profitable enterprises, which you tax, would you really prioritize some poppy fields and weapons deals?

Geo politics is more ambitious, I promise you.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:30 am

As for selling emotions, this is what all luxury markets do, music, books, movies, coffee, cigarettes, cars, real estate, opinions, boats, clothes, etc etc - all these are being sold as emotions. Thats what Edward Bernays did in the 20's.

I personally prefer buying a bit of magical plant that gives me access to different functions of my mind over buying into whatever the world now feels - weed is definitely more than en emotion.

the body is a chemical process, organic self-valuing is a chemical process, using drugs or not using drugs makes no difference, it is not more pure to not use drugs.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:31 am

If they think it is important to control those fields, it is guaranteed to be as parte of the global tug o war. Not for the profits of next season's hrvest lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:33 am

Drugs is a cozzomplicated issue.

I always like to remember that one thing they always find in prehistoric royal funeral mounds is cannabis.
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PostSubject: Re: Socalism as feudal lordship   Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:35 am

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Lol that's Vzla level, not US level.

Think about this. If you are a gvt agency for the country with all of the planet's most profitable enterprises, which you tax, would you really prioritize some poppy fields and weapons deals?

Geo politics is more ambitious, I promise you.

A couple of objections. First, Think profit margins.
On poppy these are radical. On standard taxed conglomeracy probably like 2 to 5 percent.

Second, the US economic power is based on diversity. Because of its particular makeup, the country is able to lead dozens of different megalo-markets at once. And it needs to, in order to tay on top. Hence the trade tariffs on China.

 

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