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PostSubject: magick mirror   Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:17 pm

It just occurred to me that repression works through shielding/reflecting.

I had a glance of the back cover of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", and a second later of a stray-lying dvd case of "Gomorra." My mind got entwined into a momentary fascination of the jagged image, purple and white, cutting strangely through my objective, and then became aware that I had been repressing the memory of Adolf Hitlers face by maintaining a forced fascination of something else near my field of attention. It felt like I had to create the thwarted perception of an other random object (before hand was the useful connotation of lesser violence) to distribute the surplus of the affect of the immoral power. The rejected-affect was put into a distortion of the image, of my perspective, of my standing-to my world.

I can imagine that this process would be operative constantly, that we jerk our perception out of its balance in order to pay attention to something else - anything. I experienced a dominantly visual play of this, giving the impression of a shielding by reflecting on mirrors put at odd angles to each other.

Psychoanalysis would be the study of the hands that put the mirrors there -- "magick" or any kind of internal yoga would be the art of re-aligning them to refer to a full image, instead of a perplexity of perspective-facets

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:49 am

Perhaps the thought of repression becomes intolerable; it appears to us as childish, neurotic, weak. We forbid ourselves, we strong ones, from indulging in such infantile luxuries. Perhaps repression itself is repressed -- and the project of ridding our conscious minds of an insufferable idea is refocused, consolidated in a new way. A forced change of attention, a displacing of focus from the intolerable image onto a replacement, an image to fill the mental gap left by the displacement: this works as a mental acrobatic aimed at the same goal, taking the place of a repression (to distribute the affect, as you write) once repression itself is thought intolerable. Indeed, we might take this acrobatic movement of the mind as the object of our study, the object of the psychoanalytic gaze, and find our way much deeper into the darkened, forbidding realms of the mind. I suspect such mental acrobatics, such contortions around the nexus of repression are never-ending. We are constantly playing a sort of perverted catch-up with our unconscious selves. Only once in an age are we able to stumble upon the type of thought that allows us a strangle-hold, a leg-up on the unconscious, a foothold from which we might propel ourselves forward into the unknown. Intriguing thoughts, FC.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:09 pm

The typical homosapian mind functions via over focus and exaggeration as a means to distract from over focus and exaggeration. What can't be avoided or digested must be deflected, reflected, or coated with a seal.

But the struggle of minds today is not so much with the easy to repair software, but the very difficult to repair wetware.
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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:40 pm

An insight, with all honest respect to satanists:

Repression doesn't hide a whole, it hides that there is yet no whole.

In this sense, philosophy must build. Humans are silly to seek anything pure in muddled thought but instinct. This is why gods have been useful, and would reproach this if they cared more.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:11 pm

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Repression doesn't hide a whole, it hides that there is yet no whole.

and drugs are a means to endure that there is yet no whole. That is why all drugs lead to a form of laughter, and why laugher is whole-some;

by embracing the unwholeness there is a wholeness, but it exists only in motion, rapture - what man used to find in the hunt and the fight for survival.

There is thus only one way to get rid of an addiction: the creation of a path through danger by the setting of a goal pertaining directly to his self-valuing. That means: rearranging his instincts.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:09 am

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Repression doesn't hide a whole, it hides that there is yet no whole.

and drugs are a means to endure that there is yet no whole. That is why all drugs lead to a form of laughter, and why laugher is whole-some;

by embracing the unwholeness there is a wholeness, but it exists only in motion, rapture - what man used to find in the hunt and the fight for survival.

There is thus only one way to get rid of an addiction: the creation of a path through danger by the setting of a goal pertaining directly to his self-valuing.

This reminds me:

On page 106 of his _Leo Strauss and Nietzsche_, Laurence Lampert wrote:
[...] Strauss states that nature is a fragment unless willed as a bridge to the future: the complementary man complements nature by completing it, in a way ending its fragmentariness. Nature is provided with synonyms that stem from Zarathustra and that link nature and history: "the gruesome rule of non-sense and chance, nature, the fact that almost all men are fragments, cripples and gruesome accidents, the whole present and past." This catalog states what must be willed in willing suffering and inequality--the accidental past, human nature as it is, the whole present and past. This totality of present and past remains "a fragment, a riddle, a gruesome accident unless it is willed as a bridge to the future." Present and past are made whole in a future only if everything that was and is is willed; only if the fragmentary is affirmed by a piece of the fragment can it attain a kind of wholeness. And by putting the emphasis on suffering and inequality, Strauss puts the emphasis exactly where Zarathustra himself put it in "On Redemption," the crucial chapter in Thus Spoke Zarathustra (2.20) from which the argument is drawn: what is hardest to bear in willing the whole natural order, the whole of the natural process, is to will suffering and inequality, to will the fragmentary character of humanity, to will the absence of redemption from the natural human condition with its order of rank of the natures.

Consider also the notion of the eternal recurrence as a time-fetish--a healthy time-fetish as opposed to, say, the unhealthy Zoroastrian-Abrahamic time-fetish, the straight line segment (reminiscent as the latter is of the phallus, as opposed to the circle which is reminiscent of the vulva).

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:51 am

Perhaps justice, in this willing of the suffering and/in nature in history, is to find a justification of it, as you say, not in a falic time fashion, but a vulvan calm passion of the eternal recurrence. Not a repetition like a movie, but a volving of the same instincts and potentials. So justice is creative, but not genetic. Suffering is willed, but not as an end itself.

If we turn away from the falus, much of the responsibility turns to the eternally recurring participants themselves. Justice is not then Roman but... Different. Maybe reminiscent of hinduism, remembering your old avatar. But vaguely.

As a side note, the eternal recurrence as falic, a movie, is quite the fucking trip. Beautiful and, ultimately, the birth of Existentialist morality.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:15 pm

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Perhaps justice, in this willing of the suffering and/in nature in history, is to find a justification of it, as you say, not in a falic time fashion, but a vulvan calm passion of the eternal recurrence. Not a repetition like a movie, but a volving of the same instincts and potentials.

This mediates the time fetish concept sufficiently for me to relate to it, and now I can actually see it. I see that the phallic time, the straight line fro beginning to end, is an overheated, 'hysterical' experience of time. I can quite strongly feel its feverish quality.

The vulvic time (I like these expressions, vulvic time and phallic time, it would be fun to discuss them aloud in the street) was not understandable to me, as the ER so far mainly served to me as a symbol of the cyclical nature of... nature, not as an actual picture of it , but in this sense of 'volving of the same instincts and potentials' it is more than imaginable.

Perhaps men seek a circle because they are fundamentally happy with their nature, and wish to arrive back upon it, and women see s straight line because the want proceed, ahead from where they are now - the circle is voluptuous, like woman as the possession of man - referring to that notion of freedom as a function of possessing.

So, yeah.



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So justice is creative, but not genetic. Suffering is willed, but not as an end itself.

Suffering is willed as the soil and the seed, the moment where the seed breaks open into the soil, for the two to receive each other.

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If we turn away from the falus, much of the responsibility turns to the eternally recurring participants themselves. Justice is not then Roman but... Different. Maybe reminiscent of hinduism, remembering your old avatar. But vaguely.

As a side note, the eternal recurrence as falic, a movie, is quite the fucking trip. Beautiful and, ultimately, the birth of Existentialist morality.

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Chiron is birthed by Cronos in the form of horse, a night-mare, a crisis. The Plutonic healing is cathartic.
The opening of gaps - forgetfulness - is a precursor to health. Dissolution of old, weak forms shedding away to a becoming, a growth.
Chiron's hybridity is a formal riddle. Burkert [Homo Necans] cites the ancient I.E. rite of horse-sacrifice [including the story of the Trojan horse] which involved incubating the horse's head as healing the entropic time.
Horse as the symbol of time, the sun rising and setting as Apollo drives it as his chariot across the sky is an old metaphor.

Horse, Ehwaz, ("equus"?); the long distance, which can only be crossed when man and beast are in Harmony. Apollo's chariot: consciousness as a extended time, time as conception.

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A glance into the absurdity of the world can be won only with an absurdity, a play, a riddle... and a peek of truth is caught in the lightness of playing although the riddle itself may be serious and deadly.
The solving of the riddle joins the fragments and fragmentations.
The Kenaz rune ' < '  is like an inward thorn or arrow upon oneself, like Chiron shot with a poisoned arrow.
The rune of knowledge is also the rune of wounds, rot, putrescence, burns, inflame-ation, scorching blisters, volcanic light, sacred fire of sexual generation (kennen: to know, to beget)...

And what causes Kenaz but the thorn, the first blood-drawing edge of the Futhark:

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Apollo the scorcherer and the sender of plague is also the enlightener and light of any hierosgamos, marriage of two things that is number, proportion, healing music, a re-membrance over the gap of forgetfulness.

The aspect of scorcher and enlightener together in the lightning: Thor, Thunder, Thurisaz.

Next level pain = Hagal:

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Hagalaz – “Hag-all-az” – Literally: “Hail” or “Hailstone” – Esoteric: Crisis or Radical Change

A storm of thorns, moving into Nauthiz - Need/Necessity Moving into... Isa, ice, isolation, I, Individuation.
Then only then: Jera - year, cycle, recurrence - the recurrence is a circle around the I.

Now the Futhark crosses into the next half by giving Eihwaz, the inversed Sun principle, the Zodiac, the world turned inward, the black sun. The next following rune is better not mentioned.

Relevant here being the notion of the recurrence, as circle, revolving around the I, the straight line. What this means to me is that in order to solidly hold a 'vulvic' conception of time, one must have a 'phallic' conception of oneself. And this corresponds with my experience. I on't care about death, about morality, about the finitude of it all, because I now that the only relevant thing I can know about it is how I stand with respect to it; I will 'turn out to' interpret time as an exact reflection of how I live my life. If I live it with great electricity, I know I will magnetize time, and time will come to revolve around 'me', that is to say my 'phallic nature', which is to say my work, my will. I know death is a function of life, and I sense that it is quite merciful if life gives it the opportunity to serve. It becomes tyrannical if it is given the chance to dominate. It doesn't want to dominate. Death is 'feminine' in this sense, she becomes a crone if there is no king.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:37 pm

I like the modern symbol for chaos, all fali pointing outwards, seeking each the largest portion of self indulgence, germination, wounding, effective experience they are able to allow themselves without the other cowering together.

That they radicate from a center is merely a geometric expression of space, and maybe that non-geometric center is justice.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:46 pm

"Death makes angels of us all and gives us wings where we had shoulders smooth as ravens claws."

Does this not reflect death as the circle? Life is the straight line that the good death bends into a circle. And only the good life can beget the good death. That means that only the naturally straight line (whatever that may mean) can be closed in the end - the dimensions are always easily bent at such all-giving junctures - for its end to refer to its beginning, in the way character is fate. The point where the errors fall into place, tragedy acquires its aesthetics, life transfigures into eternity, principles become tangible for a second.

A man who lives his life by laws had better make sure these laws derives from the same principle from which he derives. It is infinitely better to live a lawless life out of principle than to life a lawful life without principle. The latter is not a life, not a straight line and can never become a circle. This is perhaps what is meant to the perpetuating wheel of rebirth; one must live a straight line to complete the circle, which is the escape the wheel.

This is all that matters to me, or the only thing that vitally matters to me, when we are discussing the recurrence - it's effect on how we live life. This was the first way in which I picked it up when I was an philosophical rookie - as an occult technique.  It works very powerfully in that way, and I've always respected my own handling of the idea more than I respect the passage where Nietzsche brings it forth, namely, I use it as the fiction that it is, as the tool to bend the mind into a more sound shape, I think that to a sound mind, such a notion of eternity is meaningless - it is, in the analytical sense, both fictional and hollow, because eternity is made out to be a timeline measured by the absence of change. I can only imagine a 'divine' eternity as an endless curve of increase, something truly as unfathomably limitless in its whole(some)ness as the greatest things in life, whereas all eternity that is merely a loop of creation and destruction of the same is equal to only one such cycle, and is measured only by the best thing that happens in that cycle; that best thing is the correspondence to the straight line that, in my conception, curves upward into infinity or simply justifies itself; which is, pragmatically, the same thing.  And in the end the philosopher is pragmatic.   Wisdom is pragmatic, whereas truth is merely real.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:32 pm

If modern man were enlightened, his first thought would be "all these phalli, crowding in on my shit! Isn't there a seeming infinite expanse to phallicate?"

The philosopher so far, as you have said with the drowning metaphor, has been the unspeakable brave and hazardous task of finding some free range from where the philosopher stands, avoiding groping hands. This is not natural, other dicks gotta fuck off and find their own space.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:39 pm

Of courtse it is not infinite, and this proximity represents the healthy retrofeeding space between friends and enemies, between rivals and allies.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:41 pm

No, that is already too specific: between explorers. Anyway, between phalli.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:33 pm

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Perhaps justice, in this willing of the suffering and/in nature in history, is to find a justification of it, as you say, not in a falic time fashion, but a vulvan calm passion of the eternal recurrence. Not a repetition like a movie, but a volving of the same instincts and potentials.

Yes, well put. The circle is still a time-fetish, as it's simply a line segment whose beginning and end meet (and which is therefore not straight but crooked).

I've been thinking more about historic than about eternal recurrence lately--the eternal return, not of exactly the same, but of essentially the same.


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So justice is creative, but not genetic. Suffering is willed, but not as an end itself.

Yes. Nonteleologically, it's willed as an effect of the exercise of one's power; teleologically, as a means to future human greatness. In both cases, the end is enjoyment.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:44 pm

Whose power? That seems phalic. I was thinking more, like FC said, as the suffering inevitable to a breaking open of seed to soil, as the suffering of the first clumbsy steps taken by these recurring elements in history.

If we are going to be Nietzschean, let's be Nietzschean: there is no power willed or willing, only will to power willing more will to power. Power we might call incidental to the process. The light that emanates from the place where it all happens.

 

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PostSubject: Re: magick mirror   Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:02 pm

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Whose power? That seems phalic. I was thinking more, like FC said, as the suffering inevitable to a breaking open of seed to soil, as the suffering of the first clumbsy steps taken by these recurring elements in history.

And that was taken from Parodites' pentad post. And that was sown by your conception of funk. The Wheel; this is how ER of Essence works. ERE; or not, not eternal recurrence of essence, but recurring of essence, rather than eternal recurrence (of the same); RE instead of ER.

Corresponds to Jera, the rune of the wheel of time, the seasons, also cognate with reward, happiness. That is the very meaning of natural recurrence; addition, stock, layering, building, preparing for 'consumption by fate' - the voluptuous death of harvest, an in this way the thought of the recurrence as a rams fleece, shields us through in the winter of being, where faith is not grounded in the earth but in the progressions of the stars.

A thought that wraps itself around us at a certain cue. It is a different type of god, it is better than a god, but it is still not man.

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If we are going to be Nietzschean, let's be Nietzschean: there is no power willed or willing, only will to power willing more will to power. Power we might call incidental to the process. The light that emanates from the place where it all happens.

Beautifully said! And that reflects so well how I envisioned philosophy conducting politics without compromising itself.

Human telos is the many formed and irresolvably conflicting circumference to the philosophical will, the pure will, which is its own telos formal telos by definition.

Does this mean that we can not will anything in particular? No - it means that we have to find was to include (man + earth) into (philosophy + philosopher). That will require a reconfiguration of earth, from the very earth of man on up.

 

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