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PostSubject: Clever   Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:46 am

Man prefers rather to be seen as clever than "good" (holding to his own values, rational, wise).

If it appears otherwise that is only because a man has no other better means of being seen as clever.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Clever   Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:39 pm

Capable wrote:
Man prefers rather to be seen as clever than "good" (holding to his own values, rational, wise).

If it appears otherwise that is only because a man has no other better means of being seen as clever.

Perhaps ONLY the man who NEEDS to be seen as clever. Does this absolutist statement leave much room for the individual, for the particular man?
Does a "noble" man need to be seen as clever or can he necessarily BE clever without judging himself as such?

To Be or Not to Be - clever or good? That is the Question at hand.
The way I look at it, a man seeing himself as clever is no better nor worse than the man who sees himself as good.
But the man who simply holds to his own values, rational and wise, without judgment of it or himself, but rather from necessity and self-hood, that is the noble man.



 

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PostSubject: Re: Clever   Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:55 pm

I agree. Nobility requires that one risks looking like a fool, to some people, at least once in while.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Clever   Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:41 pm

Yes. Good, just, wise, creative, these have lost their nobility and become merely derivative, subtler forms of clever-ness.

Truth will always be the best lie.

 

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