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PostSubject: Drugs   Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:19 pm

All drugs have the effect of unravelling for us parts of the world we know we don't know. That is what they are for.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:36 am

I remember writing that drugs thrust consciousness into a different view of itself, sort of like an artificial and temporary philosophy. Normally consciousness gets stuck in patterns and habits of perception, thought, motivational thresholds, all that, but drugs stir up the mix and allow new configurations. Drugs don't somehow give an experience, they confuse the current experience enough to force it to change. How it changes, then, reveals a lot about who and what we are, and about the objects of thought as you say, unraveling unknown parts of the world to us.

For me a theory of mind boils down in a large way to the concept of perspectives, quanta of perspectives, the logic of interactions of perspectives, scope and degree and depth. Drugs operate right at the heart of this, at least some drugs do.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:22 am

There's a theory that an accomplished enough buhddist monk can access all the areas of consciousness that psychoactive drugs produce. Their pathos is absolute knowledge. They want nothing hidden from the world.

Drug users are couragous in this way, they accept the reasons to hide and must find answers.

Buhddist monks unsettle a european spirit.

In terms of value ontology, non-psychoactive drugs also have the effect of unravelling parts of the world for us that we know we don't know.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:27 am

That we value as presently unvaluable.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:38 am

Yes, and I think these monks experience something different. If it were all the same you'd have a lot of movies and inventions coming out of Tibet. I agree with these definitions above. Drugs are simply cocktails of chemicals to the chemical process that man is already being, they completely alter what a man is in that moment when the chemical is being absorbed (the absorbing is the strange part of the trip) and quite alter how he comports himself when he has grown back to his normal state. Precisely because the drug is imperfect and can be bad and unnatural it is incomparable to the states of bliss and vision that a yogi can attain. His sammasamhadi states can perhaps absorb a bag of xtc pills without being much altered, but be can not experience the state of going from good into bad and back, which is where our art comes from.

Western man places himself below art, that is why he is so depressed and unhappy and unreasonable to himself. He lives for his states of world-contradicting awesomeness, and also for the greasy dirt he has to clean behind the closet every day.



 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:49 am

The addict, then, tricks himself into believing he is the funk. Once he realizes the trick and understands he has melded in himself bad with good, revocably, he is invaded by a sense of urgency.

This state would be blissful if it didn't scare. Full of blissful promise.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:10 pm

Right, exactly. This urgency is lacking in the sober state, which then becomes an urge itself, an urge for the greater urgency.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:15 pm

(Nietzsche condemned this. This was my great betrayal and liberation...! The reason I feel so full of grace and debt with the irresponsible youth of modern man. This is his will to power.)

 

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PostSubject: Re: Drugs   Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:05 pm

It is also a remedy against soulcancer.

 

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