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PostSubject: The Path Orientations of Religions and Poltical views.   Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:50 am

I was thinking that there can be Yin paths(not that yin or yang is necessarily one or the other) like Yin could be 'Moralistic' and yang be amoralistic... but I might think more politically; Yin as if left-wing, yang as in right-wing. then one might have the buddhistic view of the middle path; not either but inbetween yin and yang... And perhaps this is an aspect of Taoism, but what of what I will call "being Tao" not being either or, nor inbetween... but being all... both Yin and Yang and neither...both and all...

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PostSubject: Re: The Path Orientations of Religions and Poltical views.   Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:50 pm

Thinking beyond appeal to religious/spiritualistic conceptions? Thinking "pure concepts" "in themselves" without these sort of religious/spiritualist metaphorical models as guides/"paths"?


Edit: the problem is in the reliance upon myth and symbolism to disclose truth. Truth can become disclosed in this manner, but only partially, and only while being skewed and colored based on the quality and substance of the generative mythos. This is sufficient for most people, for the religious, for the poet, even for the artist. But for the philosopher, this is inadequate. Truth must be sought and expressed as it is, in itself, and appeal to myth and symbolic conception can be applied usefully only when there is a clear utility in doing so, when there is a particular end which is gained by employing such conceptions in the name of truth. Because as we know, such conceptions speak truth only in the sense that they lie about truth, that they deceive.

In Birth of Tragedy Nietzsche makes a good case for the illusory, the fictive in this sense. The need for such mythos and stories, with respect to the dosclosure of truth/s. But that applied back in the days of the ancient Greeks, the pre- and very first philosophers. Today, with the entire cultural and historical lineage which we have the benefit of inheriting, such things become trivialities, or if not unnecessary strictly then at least merely supplementary.

Relying on myth, story, symbolic ideas to grasp truth breeds a certain sort of consciousness, what I would call the religious consciousness, which militates against the possibility of active, real thought and productivity, militates against the philosophic possibility.

 

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"Was it necessary for the sense of truth that Nietzsche described as developed by the Judeo-Christian tradition that then manifested itself in the scientific methodology to turn against the symbolic foundation of that structure and demolish it... Jung's answer was that the conflict between science and religion is a consequence of the immature state of both of those domains of thinking... it's just that we aren't good enough at being religious or at being scientific to see how they might be reconciled." -Jordan Peterson
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