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I talked to a guy from the Netherlands today, he is hoping Trump will change the tax codes so he can come here and start a business.

These are real people. Based on conversations I've had the last two weeks, there is a lot of hope for the US and European future. And now Russia is aligned psychologically to the US.

Look at Trump's appointments of people to his team: he is using everyone from all angles. He will save the souls of more than a few neocons. He will put everyone to real honest work.

Fuck. So this is what pride in one's nation feels like.
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I love these. Are you posting them on meme sites like 9gag and imgflip?

These are nice to have accounts at as you get comments, often in the form of memes.
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I talked to a guy from the Netherlands today, he is hoping Trump will change the tax codes so he can come here and start a business.

These are real people. Based on conversations I've had the last two weeks, there is a lot of hope for the US and European future. And now Russia is aligned psychologically to the US.

Look at Trump's appointments of people to his team: he is using everyone from all angles. He will save the souls of more than a few neocons. He will put everyone to real honest work.

Fuck. So this is what pride in one's nation feels like.

I'm still looking for a reason not to be serious about the Netherlands and Scandinavian states enlisting as states of the US.

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Erm, well, that is actually a horrible idea, hahaha

what the fuck am I thinking. I came here to get away from all these assholes.
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I'm proud as a Russian, not as a Dutchman. I am happy as dweller of the dunes, but that's ancient protoculture, not present day in the nation. It's such a stupid silly bunch of clones, it's incredibly sad. And at the same time powerful. Efficient and required. A big harbor with an unbelievably backwards backland.

The Russian tie to Holland (the west of the Netherlands is Holland, the old, political, not agricultural provinces) is that Czar Peter came there to the town my mother is from to learn ship building. As I repeat now and then they still have yearly parades in the river there with a Russian embassadors ship or whatever. Its not terribly exciting, just a reminder that the ties are centuries old and didnt suffer of the cold war, since the region became a deeply Communist nest before or during the world wars.



That is paradoxically the Europe that can understand Trump - not the City, not the Backland, but the old manufacturing towns. They produce good chocolate there, and all sorts of fineries. I like industry a lot. It stinks, but you know something is going on that makes sense.
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I think globalism basically needs armies of clones like this, these millions of identical people so basically equal to capitalism's commodities and ideologies. They overwhelmingly vote for neoliberals, just because they're instinctively attuned to the status quo. As George Orwell wrote in 1984, the most important skills for these people is their ability to semi-unconsciously sniff out the proper way to be, aligning to whatever is expected of them by the larger system representatives and without needing to be explicitly told to do so. So a huge hierarchy exists whereby "the system" disseminates control as orders down through various ranks of politicians, business groups, think tanks, managers, media figures, all the way down to your individual boss at your job-- it's a very close and closed network of sycophantism that operates in a way essentially indistinguishable from how pack mentality operates in wild animals: anyone mid to high level is allowed a small range of possible will to power expressions to try and claw their way up a bit, while the vast majority are totally powerless underclass at the bottom who must take orders with a smile and be happy with whatever scraps are left to them after the higher-ups finish eating.

So under globalism we are seeing the formation of a human pack-animal mentality. Just as Nietzsche saw and knew would get worse; the last man, the empty humanist. Only it isn't traditional religion or even" scientific" humanism that has done it so much as it's been simply a side-effect of global capitalism.

I am now fully a "nationalist" in the sense you and Parodites are. I still want global-level structures but these must be naturally emergent from national-level power and identity. When I listen to news now almost every time there's some story about "white identity politics" that the newscaster tells through a half-scoff; these clowns on media and politics are old news, trying to smear an entire people for their wanting to simply defend their own culture and history from dissolution. This isn't even about race, nor about religion, it's simply about culture and the economic processes and emotional/thinking forms that rule in a society. These things must be tied to and come from, in close reciprocal relationship, to a locality of humans. Being against mass immigration isn't about racism, it's about the obvious sentiment that a culture such as ours, of which we are quite proud often enough, cannot open floodgates to millions of people from other cultures, especially when those people are highly medieval. This is simple logic, A=A.

We can handle gladly a small quantity of immigrants each year, but not beyond that. And we should be proud of people in UK and US for rejecting the dissolution of their own cultures and societies under the threat of politically correct globalized capitalism. Another news story I heard was about people in small UK towns who voted for Brexit, the news reporter was making fun at them because many voted against their own interest because of how the EU was paying for various industries to be subsidized, which industries these people who voted for Brexit themselves work in. The news reporter couldn't understand how they could "vote against their own self-interest"; so we glimpse suddenly into the mindset of these clones, for them "self-interest" is identical to "aligning to handouts from global systems." Then when he interviewed someone and they said "the UK is strong and resilient, we will rise above any hardships from leaving the EU" the newscaster mocked his "blind faith in his nation", despite being forced to admit that such faith was justified if one took a historical look at UK success over time.

It really is strange and sad to see the machine of political corrrctness sucking the souls out of these sort of people. Listening to mainstream news now is literally like injecting a dose of soullessness into one's veins.
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Excellent. Such a merciless anysis is invigorating.

Now look at this.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/08/bbc-pulls-edits-racist-job-ad/
Even with Brexit it isnt clear that England will live.
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In France, which should remain and control the EU, as it is essentially Socialist, Marine LePen has wasted her chances, and her right to win. She proclaims to intend to deny illegal immigrant children education.
That is not only against French honor but the direct opposite of what needs to be done for Islamic children.

Center right Republican Fillon will win, it looks like, fine with me. France needs to get Germany in line.
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Excellent. Such a merciless anysis is invigorating.

Now look at this.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/08/bbc-pulls-edits-racist-job-ad/
Even with Brexit it isnt clear that England will live.

That's probably just the BBC, which from what I can tell is basically a mouthpiece for neoliberal globalism. It doesn't surprise me at all to see something like this from BBC.
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People that like Clinton... seriously, how does that happen??

I caught another 60 seconds of that regurgitating chemo-sewagetank she calls a mouth. Soulless whore of death.
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/08/potential-u-s-secretary-state-britain-high-priority-list/

Eh voici

its going to be hard for the EU to compete with the Anglo Empire now. To exalt and exult its greatest splendors is absolutely the only option it has.

Trump is further crystallizing real nations. We'll see what Europe becomes, if it becomes.


Jesus Christ if you have Athens and Paris, you should not be in trouble.
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People that like Clinton... seriously, how does that happen??

I caught another 60 seconds of that regurgitating chemo-sewagetank she calls a mouth. Soulless whore of death.

Haha this made me laugh.
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/08/potential-u-s-secretary-state-britain-high-priority-list/

Eh voici

its going to be hard for the EU to compete with the Anglo Empire now. To exalt and exult its greatest splendors is absolutely the only option it has.

Trump is further crystallizing real nations. We'll see what Europe becomes, if it becomes.


Jesus Christ if you have Athens and Paris, you should not be in trouble.

EU bankrupted Athens. Then turned its back on them.

You're right about exalting. Only those cultures and people who do exalt themselves, who truly feel exalted sentiment for themselves and where they come from, will thrive.

I don't know if anyone really feels exalted about the EU. As for Muslim countries, feeling whatever they feel about their god-thing doesn't really count.
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No you're right, the "EU" isnt even nothing, it is less. Nationalism is required.

I will view Europe from now on as "Greater France".

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Im going to try to get this idiom going, where every time a European does something uncouth or just unworthy (this is happening a lot, suffice to say) I will say, "that's not very French of him!"

So like Kosher, essentially. But for Europeans.
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http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/08/trump-expected-to-tap-labor-secretary-who-prefers-foreign-labor-to-american-workers/

Smart move, smart article


Bottom line is that exporting companies isnt the same as hiring immigrants.

Certainly not legal immigrants.
A non issue, just a good 'leftist' pick for a core-Left post.



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Fixed Cross wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/08/trump-expected-to-tap-labor-secretary-who-prefers-foreign-labor-to-american-workers/

Smart move, smart article


Bottom line is that exporting companies isnt the same as hiring immigrants.

Certainly not legal immigrants.
A non issue, just a good 'leftist' pick for a core-Left post.

What this guy said in that article is bullshit though. Plenty of Americans are willing to flip burgers and work from the bottom up. Also, being a fast food (poison food) executive qualifies someone as most likely to be soulless, in my view. Otherwise I know nothing about the guy.
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Trump is pragmatic, and open minded, so I think he will get on board with understanding that global warming is real and he will want to do something about it.

What is the best way to address global warming?

The main reason why republicans in the US don't want to admit to global warming is because the cause of global warming is mostly fossil fuel burning, and republicans tend to be bought by the energy industries, but also just because the republican ideology is tied into consumption capitalism and anything that would hurt consumption would impact economic activity and hurt corporate profits. Also the nature of global warming is such that the problem is indeed global in nature, which makes it hard for any localist politics to tackle.

I think the US, Russia and China should create their own emissions treaty. Set an equal reduction target for emissions as a percentage of each country's total emissions output. Also set the means by which reductions are achieved, for example if 50% comes from reducing coal plants then have that set for all three countries equally. Then create a pool of money for all three countries to use to coordinate efforts and partly offset economic detriments from reducing emissions, as well as to fund new technologies for atmospheric carbon cleanup.

We also need weather technologies that can change weather patterns on global levels. For example, use electromagnetic signals in the atmosphere to heat certain areas of air in order to create high pressure zones that can be used to push around weather patterns. This technology should be operated by a consortium of leaders from all three countries equally. Such technology could be used to bolster the weakened northern hemispheric jet stream by redirecting the arctic cold zone back over the North Pole, for example, to prevent loss of arctic air from the North Pole and keep it from melting. Also we could direct hurricanes out into the ocean and away from population centers and coastal areas.

If US, Russia and China all agreed to this then it would be possible for each of these countries to reduce their military spending and use that money to fund the common pool of funds to address weather and climate concerns. Even a modest 3% decrease in military spending for each country would result in about $25 billion dollars a year.
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Fixed Cross wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/08/trump-expected-to-tap-labor-secretary-who-prefers-foreign-labor-to-american-workers/

Smart move, smart article


Bottom line is that exporting companies isnt the same as hiring immigrants.

Certainly not legal immigrants.
A non issue, just a good 'leftist' pick for a core-Left post.

What this guy said in that article is bullshit though. Plenty of Americans are willing to flip burgers and work from the bottom up. Also, being a fast food (poison food) executive qualifies someone as most likely to be soulless, in my view. Otherwise I know nothing about the guy.

It clearly isnt very exact, its just a kind of strategy they choose which I do appreciate, as it forces people to consider the option.

As an outsider I can say with certainty that the US is in its core ethos a multiracial nation. All of Europe except Britain is racist as fuck. However, that does not entirely impede humanity, because society is at least afraid of its racism, and younger generations will grow up without it, if religion ceases to be classified as race.

In general fast food restaurants wherever Ive been across Europe have only or mostly non-whites working there, most of whom would come from immigrant families, some of whom are immigrants themselves. These people are admirable for keeping a good attitude in that shitty job, I actually respect the kids tending at Burger King and KFC in Amsterdam a lot, Ive always wondered at how well they are doing their jobs. But in the US, virtually everyone working in service industries does a remarkable job.

Journalists are generally opportunistic people, liars, spoiled, clueless, neurotic. The best of them simply have a good heart and scheme their way to other peoples benefit. The profession never allowed for independence of advertisers or ideologies. Warjournalists and deep-cover reporters have awesome lives, but still function as feathers in the wind of money, as they dont control the contexts where they're being placed. Framing - all that matters. Why I enjoyed my job as editor more than as writer-director - the end of the process is where the power consolidates.

Advertisers are pretty cool brand of people. They are entirely non-ideological, international and morally sharp, as they need to be to keep in the game. Advertisers know theyre spinning fiction, it's their pride.
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You know, racial differences exist. In the US they are unimpeded, the African bloodlines have controlled the whole world for a century now with their sheer excess, i.e. evolutionary appeal, 'peacock-tails', even as the old white male paradigm is still as powerful as ever at all banking positions. It can both happen at once.

In Europe the opposite is being enforced, we must all be Belgians. No race can exist, only subdued trampledness, neutrality through experience of pain and shame, loss of humanity at the service of equality of all biological natures, all are enslaved per their attributes but since all are slaves none feel privy to themselves and all only to Trend.

Pure fabric; as Nietzsche predicted. Malleable clay. But he did not predict America, except in the abstraction of rich but difficult conditions to bring about higher natures. Danger in the street and in the heart, as he prescribed, and the FederaL legislative structure that goes directly against any politics Nietzsche ever explicitly valued.


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While I read your posts above, I would like to add that I trust Trump's choices.

For one thing, I think he is basically picking people who he knows, and trusts. He doesn't care what their "image" is, or how politically correct they are, or how much the PC-popularity-media crowd likes them. He doesn't care if they are "controversial". He simply picks people he likes.


That is really fucking cool.
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And fast food is poison, sure. But hell, it tastes great.

That's America.
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You know, racial differences exist. In the US they are unimpeded, the African bloodlines have controlled the whole world for a century now with their sheer excess, i.e. evolutionary appeal, 'peacock-tails', even as the old white male paradigm is still as powerful as ever at all banking positions. It can both happen at once.

In Europe the opposite is being enforced, we must all be Belgians. No race can exist, only subdued trampledness, neutrality through experience of pain and shame, loss of humanity at the service of equality of all biological natures, all are enslaved per their attributes but since all are slaves none feel privy to themselves and all only to Trend.

Pure fabric; as Nietzsche predicted. Malleable clay. But he did not predict America, except in the abstraction of rich but difficult conditions to bring about higher natures. Danger in the street and in the heart, as he prescribed, and the FederaL legislative structure that goes directly against any politics Nietzsche ever explicitly valued.



Absolutely, yes. Fuck.

I had this same thought earlier today actually, that Nietzsche never predicted America. Otherwise he was spot on.
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