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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:47 pm

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Obama is apparently just quite dumb, ...

Are you just now beginning to figure that out?
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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:42 pm

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Fixed Cross wrote:
Obama is apparently just quite dumb, ...

Are you just now beginning to figure that out?

Yes. I figured him for aloof and twisted, and I enjoyed his standup comedy. I always said thats the best quality he has, tell jokes others have written for him. I figured there goes some intelligence into this. Which is true, but I overestimated the degree.

One must be pretty dumb to do the stuff he's done if the intention was not actually the ruin of the world. I was never sure what he himself figured to get out of it, now I realize it was just fun and games for him and he doesn't actually think about the future at all.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:23 am

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Obama is apparently just quite dumb, and as intellectually as lazy as your random lumberjack Joe. He probably just refuses to think about what he does, goes about stroking his balls thinking he's so classy to have attained this office, and others are so jealous of him for objecting to his actions, the consequences of which are clearly not comprehensible to him in the least.

I can just see him puzzling over why people care so much about having to pay some measly thousands of dollars extra, you can see that is really small money to him, and he doesn't know what you can buy with it. "Only a percent of my car", he'll think. "Thats nothing."

Then he'll go on an internal rant on how racist Americans are for not wanting to give up all their money for him to have his name on a law. He'll order some dronestrikes on the usual targets, schools and weddings and such, to clear his heart, brush the dirt off his shoulder and do another hip press conference about how not being black is racist.

Hahaha. Very well said.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:58 pm

Remarkably easy to understand all that's happened after accepting he's an arbitrary blockhead who happened to have the right tone of voice to sit on the unmanned Harvester which is running rampant in expanding circles across humanity. He really had me fooled. I tend to get fooled by ordinary people with a slightly above average wit, as most humans are just dense as Disney cartoon sidekicks when it comes to reasoning about consequences rather than wishes, and I always need to refrain from speaking as with my militaristic as well as absurdist persona I'll take all the attention in the room and nobody will be worth mine, so I keep strenuously silent and tend to overlook how dense even that witty one is.

Talking to people that don't reason is like drinking beer. I can't do it anymore without feeling the hollowness of every bit of valuing it inspires.

edit - ok if beer is the inadequacy to reason, as is cocaine or mdma, any drug that makes things easier - it certainly is a stimulus to action. Reason often obstructs action, or rather it is an alternative. Opiates inspire thought, not action - thought that comes first in willful error that leads to a richer tapestry of experience-as-such (since there is that, there can not be a thing-as-such; there can only be one thing as-such. Namely, suchness.)

A means that makes the moment more simple resolves itself in making the next moment more complicated. A means that makes the present more complex results simply in the acceptance of complexity. Or rather, wielding that means on oneself is already an expression of the will to complexity.

Complexity for its own sake is nonsense, and yet nonsense is far from meaningless; in an absurdity we can manage to recognize the absurdity of all thought except philosophy; all jokes that work are allusions to philosophy. Stinging arrows of Apollo, small dosage of poison, benevolent plague. What a person finds to laugh at tells more than what he hates or loves, as it is his path beyond himself.

What you laugh at you have overcome. What you laugh with has conquered you.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:54 pm

Just read a Clinton News Network article about how students chanting "build a wall" sharing in Trump's win are apparently "racists" and were harassing Hispanic students just by chanting that.

Do any of these shitlibs realize that we already have a fucking border? That building a wall on the border isn't somehow creating a border that isn't already there? Or that a nation has a right to have a border? Or that enforcing anti-immigration against people sneaking across your border illegally isn't "racist"?

Fuck but im just going to give up hope for all these goddamn morons. Kids celebrating Trump's win by cheering one of his main slogans, which amounts to nothing more than "we have a border so let's actually use it", there is nothing wrong with that, yet these kids are being made into some kind of nazi criminals just for being excited that their candidate won.

The biggest threat to humanity right now is political correctness. And fuck anyone who buys into that garbage, who would harass and insult and smear 7th graders for cheering on their president.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:56 am

It is definitely a rape of hope itself to extend it to a Clinton supporter.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:10 pm

i like this

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“Citizen Trump would hold a grudge for life, but President-elect Trump has shown he’s willing to meet with anyone under the right circumstances.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/14/donald-trump-winning-war-cnn/

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:36 pm

True gratitude to Fixed and Parodites for sticking with me while I broke out of the matrix, and for helping me with that.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:48 am

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True gratitude to Fixed and Parodites for sticking with me while I broke out of the matrix, and for helping me with that.

Trump has created a social divide that is continuing to enlarge, getting bigger and bigger, until now it is inevitable that it pushes every member of the population to one side or the other, either for or against Trump, forcing everyone to assume a position. Before you were neither for or against Trump or anyone really in the political sense, but this social divide continued enlarging.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:39 pm

I think you're right about that. My first reaction was to side against Trump, as soon as that enlarging space started to push me.

On Zizek for a moment; seems he was like me in that way, impulsively against Trump before the cognitive parts of his brain really had a chance to get going. But at least in my case I could admit my error, I wonder if Zizek has or will. Zizek said that Trump is "shitting in public" with his language use, and that Trump confuses not being PC with not having any standards of decency.

What? Trump is the only person in the political arena I've seen who has any standards of decency. Zizek was flat wrong about that, just like he was wrong when he predicted that Clinton would win easily. I would be interested to see if he has the honesty to admit his mistakes, but so far I haven't cared enough to go try and find out.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:45 pm



Trump starts at 2:00
His superior mind reveals.

 

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