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PostSubject: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:57 pm

I went through five Google search pages in looking for a simple review of this new Ghostbusters remake, an honest review that takes into account the genuine dislike of how they remade this movie with all women.. still can't find one. It's a flood of basically the same story: "if you dislike this movie you're a sexist". Maybe we should have said, if you take a beloved classic film with a huge cult following and deliberately fuck with it, and make it blatant that's what our doing, then you have no right to complain when people get pissed off.

They could have remade the film with one or two female characters and no one would have even noticed. Yet they did a huge and deliberate "fuck you" to the film series, which is strange since they are remaking that series. Why would you do a nice big fuck you to the very series you want to remake?

Let's say it went the other way... someone decides to remake Sex and the City but with four dudes. They're not gay, they're just four guys and it's called Sex and the City just like the original, and the premise is the same etc etc (I don't know what the premise is of Sex and the City, but let's say they basically copy it). What would the reaction be?

"That is sexist". So basically you have sexism against men either way: if they remake a film and replace all male roles with female roles, and if you don't like it, then you're sexist, but if they remake a film and replace all female roles with male roles that would be called sexist too. Lol.

The deeper thing here is that Ghostbusters is a typically male film. It appeals to boys and adult males, it has an overtly "male" tone and appeal. Sure women like it too, but basically the ethos of the movie is one that appeals first to men and second to everyone broadly. It's a story about some scientists fighting ghosts with cool energy guns and in cool suits with a cool car, I mean it doesn't get more quintessentially male appeal oriented than that. This is the same reason why comic books and super heroes have traditionally been male territory. It isn't rocket science, this is just where the appeal is.

Anyway, it's funny to see Google in on it too. After so many page searches and not finding a single honest commentary like the one I'm making now, especially considering how simple and honest this insight is, it's obvious that Google is suppressing pages that say basically what I'm saying here, and actively promoting pages that push the whole "you're a sexist!" like against anyone who doesn't fall over backwards to love this new Ghostbusters film. I saw this same thing with Google after the shitty Disney remake of Star Wars came out, every search result was blind syncophantism.

I'm not saying this new Ghostbusters is a bad movie, I haven't even seen it. Maybe it's great. But the point is that's the obvious and obviously deliberate genderism in the remake is going to cause people to get upset, which is the whole point, since they get to piss people off and then stand there and shame those people when they do exactly what you knew they were going to do when you deliberately genderized a cult classic film. Plus, you can't remake Ghostbusters, no matter the gender makeup. It's a classic for a reason. This goes to the heart of the same bullshit that people like Jar Jar Abrams pull when they remake great beloved classic films and try to just shamelessly appropriate the magic of the original to their own half-ass attempt. Yes the new Star Wars, Star Trek, Transformers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and probably Ghostbusters too are entirely half-ass. Yes it's fucked up to deliberately genderize a film and then pretend like it's perfectly normal and you didn't even know that's why you're doing it that way (what's next, Transformers remake where it's literally "trans"-formers with every role played by a transgender person?), but the real grievance here is these shameless and totally half-ass attempts to appropriate the love for an original classic film or franchise. These people aren't fooling anyone. If you wanted to truly do justice to the originals then you would try a hell of a lot harder, and probably end up admitting that it's an impossible thing to do.

Edit: I'm renaming this thread Capable's Film Corner for Honesty. I will probably write more film-oriented commentary or reviews here at some point.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:55 pm

Id been following news on this Ghostbusters for what feels like ten years, first it was just that Bill Murray wasn't going to be in it which means like a Godfather without Al Pacino or a Terminator without Arnie. So I was not going to watch it anyway, but then it turns out they've made it into a sexist and racist vehicle... it is of course sexist to attack a movie franchise with Gender as the only idea in mind - they're just wretches that made this. The complaints that I read now besides it being a very boring and bad movie, are also that the black womans part has been written as a kind of negro-slave.

As I say in a rap: fuck feminism in the asshole, double time it, triple upon  it, just protect your motherfucking daughters.

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PostSubject: Re: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:52 pm

Looks like a Deadwood reprise as a movie is in the works.


Fucking right.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:49 am

The Shield:

(A few small spoilers)

This show is excellent. Vic is a character with significant depth and really all the major characters have good complexity and human-ness to them. The show focuses on the contradictions of each person and how this propels them forward to both good and bad ends. Vic is really interesting because he doesn't care for truth at all, he only cares for his own values; he totally subverts truth to the ends of his values, attempting to turn truth entirely into a means and never into an end. Despite how good he is at this, an even perfect attempt at doing that is going to start to break apart one's reality and we see the cracks slowly spreading through his reality, the consequences of his badass heroic attempt to subvert truth for the sake of his own self-valuing. The tragic dimension comes in where he is unable to foresee certain subtler consequences of his choices, more generally of his method, and as his excess is ramping up over time (I am currently in the middle of season 2) this tragic dimension will only grow.

The show reveals that the only way to successfully manage a method such as Vic's, one of heroic self-valuing without regard to truth, would be to also have a very firm control over one's own excess, and yet it is his excess that makes him able to self-value like he does. And he isn't stupid by any means, he is very smart and knows how to slide through even the toughest situations through acts of sheer will and human-relating. He is so 'political' that he is like the anti-politician: he would never be able to value his own methods and means when they would be used for ends outside the scope of his own values, which includes a significant breadth of humanity and moral sentiment. The line between what he values and what he does not value is near absolute, and he would never compromise that line except for one of his own values. In other words he can never be bought or corrupted.

In season 2 I am beginning to see the quality of the show's writing dip just a little bit. It's a small dip but still noticeable given the superb writing of the first season. But even as the writing is slipping just a little bit, the tension is being ramped up, so I notice there is a slight trade off of internal consistency for the sake of added intensity; for example, Vic decides not to bust the mob's money train because he wants to take it down on his own with his team and keep all the money... that doesn't really fit with his character, as a member of his own team points out, but it does increase and stretch out the tension in the plot. And at least by acknowledging the inconsistency the show is attempting to work it logically into the plot, most likely we are supposed to read it as Vic is starting to slip in his judgment due to all the pressure against his values, notably from his wife and kids being absent and from the hit put out against Vic and his team. Yet this angle doesn't really work, because we see Vic would rather take time to stake out and plan a heist of this money train rather than work on finding the Mexican drug dealer who has put out hits on himself and his strike force team... this reveals a shallowness that isn't really a part of Vic's character no matter how much stress he is under. In fact, the added stress would normally propel him more into catching the drug dealer, more into a "moral certainty" that cannot be compromised, but instead we see him basically ignoring the drug dealer and not even worrying about him, in order instead to keep flirting with women, working mundane cases and planning a heist that has no real-world value or good except for enriching his own pockets. It just doesn't make sense even if we assume he isn't really himself right now.

The other side of it is that he basically leaves his family unprotected except for a "security system" and a few private investigators keeping an eye on them. Probably Vic is thinking to use the money from the heist to pay for the 24/7 protection for his family, but the heist is by no means certain and still a month or two away. Plus he isn't the sort of person who would just pay someone else to protect his kids-- Vic would go storm through the gates of where the drug dealer is and put a bullet in his head, neat and clean. We keep hearing him say things like "don't worry, [to his team] we will find him before he finds us", but then basically doing nothing to actually find him (the highly dangerous drug dealer who put out a hit on him).

So yeah, a slight problem in the internal consistency of the writing. But as I said, the trade off is that the suspense and tension are through the roof. As I keep watching I'll have more to say. Overall this show is among the best I've seen.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:12 am

I've seen similar happen with other good shows, namely Deadwood and Boardwalk Empire. These two shows have perfect first seasons, from start to finish absolutely flawless, and then season two starts to unravel at the seams in small ways. I think it was Aristotle who talked about how the plot should flow naturally from the characters and tensions should appear and resolve with perfect internal consistency given the nature of the characters and situations. I think the problem is maybe that the writers can do this for the first season, but after that it's more up in the air as to how many more seasons they will have, therefore sort of like an author writing a novel but the author isn't able to know in advance how many chapters his novel will be able to be, therefore it's impossible to sustain perfect internal consistency from start to finish. The only sure thing is the first season, so that one gets written perfectly.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:38 pm

Movie: Inglorious Basterds

Does anyone know if this movie is any good? I am considering watching it, but not sure if I should waste my time or not. Thoughts would be welcome.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Capable's Film Corner for Honesty    Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:37 pm

I think its by far Tarantino's worst.

Its in no way relevant to the suffering brought on by the nazis, and yet tries to act as a vengenace-flick. It offers only insult to the victims, it acts as if the war was a big and rather painless joke. Tarantino does not have the darkness/depth of soul to address this type of bleakness.

Nevertheless there are some scenes that are plain genius. Nothing against the man, the director - he isnt to blame for not being able to address the true horror and true resilience of another world. It's not a horrible movie by any stretch, just worthless as a warmovie.

Django Unchained is a better attempt at morality. And the most recent one, Hateful 8, is to my mind an awesome remake of Reservoir Dogs.

 

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