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PostSubject: Re: A theory of phase transitions in thought / consciousness    Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:38 am

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The idea that thinking, either what or how we think, is entirely or even predominantly genetic is about the stupidest idea one can imagine. Such a belief merely reveals that the one who believes it was never taught how to think well, or even to understand what thinking really is. But maybe that's partly why you believe in reincarnation too.

You're an idiot. You probably believe in eternal nothingness when we die.

Thinking is genetic. Just how the fuck do you think brains are made/ Through DNA code.
People have an inherent desire to think, some people do some people don't. Which are you?

"learning to think by books"
By books you mean words, even your choice of words is poor because you can learn online through words not books.
There is a type of thought that doesn't require words, mechanic thought emotional thought etc.

You have absorbed a lot of information but your context is entirely non-existent. This is rambling.

What you are saying "being is genetic thus thought also". That is not in dispute. What is in dispute is that peoples ability to think would be entirely due to genetic makeup. There is nothing in nature that is not dependent on both environment and constitution.

Evolution is not that complicated, but very few people attain to an understanding. The idea of genetic predetermination just replaces God too snugly for people to realize the present moment is where certain genetic patterns are called into fruition by the chemistries of the nervous system in its environment.

Concentration and honor determine the quality of the genetic cellular cascade called health, bliss, prana, life, consciousness.

 

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PostSubject: Re: A theory of phase transitions in thought / consciousness    Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:35 am

garbage videos wrote:
Capable wrote:
The idea that thinking, either what or how we think, is entirely or even predominantly genetic is about the stupidest idea one can imagine. Such a belief merely reveals that the one who believes it was never taught how to think well, or even to understand what thinking really is. But maybe that's partly why you believe in reincarnation too.

You're an idiot. You probably believe in eternal nothingness when we die.

You're an idiot. You probably believe that when a glass cup shatters on the floor that somewhere, somehow the "cup" still exist, maybe in cup heaven or just waiting to be reincarnated?

In truth, when you shatter a cup on the floor the cup instantly vanishes from existence. Poof, gone, obliviated. The glass molecules that had formerly contributed to holding the cup in existence still exist, but not as a cup anymore. The cup is gone.

Unless you have any reason to think consciousness is any different than that cup, and if so then go ahead and say so, then it's to be concluded that consciousness too simply vanishes from existence the moment its organic substrate is sufficiently disorganized/destroyed such as to render that conscious no longer possible.

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Thinking is genetic. Just how the fuck do you think brains are made/ Through DNA code.
People have an inherent desire to think, some people do some people don't. Which are you?

"learning to think by books"
By books you mean words, even your choice of words is poor because you can learn online through words not books.
There is a type of thought that doesn't require words, mechanic thought emotional thought etc.

Yeah, again I just have to say that you don't know what you're talking about.

But lucky for you I'm not interested anymore. Maybe someone else can try to civilize you.

 

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PostSubject: Re: A theory of phase transitions in thought / consciousness    Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:20 am

Fixed Cross wrote:
garbage videos wrote:
Capable wrote:
The idea that thinking, either what or how we think, is entirely or even predominantly genetic is about the stupidest idea one can imagine. Such a belief merely reveals that the one who believes it was never taught how to think well, or even to understand what thinking really is. But maybe that's partly why you believe in reincarnation too.

You're an idiot. You probably believe in eternal nothingness when we die.

Thinking is genetic. Just how the fuck do you think brains are made/ Through DNA code.
People have an inherent desire to think, some people do some people don't. Which are you?

"learning to think by books"
By books you mean words, even your choice of words is poor because you can learn online through words not books.
There is a type of thought that doesn't require words, mechanic thought emotional thought etc.

You have absorbed a lot of information but your context is entirely non-existent. This is rambling.

What you are saying "being is genetic thus thought also". That is not in dispute. What is in dispute is that peoples ability to think would be entirely due to genetic makeup. There is nothing in nature that is not dependent on both environment and constitution.

Evolution is not that complicated, but very few people attain to an understanding. The idea of genetic predetermination just replaces God too snugly for people to realize the present moment is where certain genetic patterns are called into fruition by the chemistries of the nervous system in its environment.

Concentration and honor determine the quality of the genetic cellular cascade called health, bliss, prana, life, consciousness.

Honor and concentration is largely determined by genetics.

People's ability to think is wholly determined by genetics. Genetics determine the hormone map of the organism 95% of the time (except in the case of gender benders or freak organisms.)
Testosterone promotes the drive for science, estrogen promotes the drive for submission. Testosterone is determined by genetics 95% of the time (except in the case of gender benders or freak organisms which have high estrogen and testosterone.)
Furthermore, when an organism has an activated drive for science, the quality of it's science is further limited by it's genetic potentials.
Philosophy boards are only populated by a small number of individuals, there is not a global conspiracy holding people down, half the world has computers, people simply have no interest in higher things, they like Nikki Minaj, their taste for bad music is genetic and inherent to their organism. You cannot "teach" someone to like philosophy, or nerd out over science, or fangirl over sci-fi, they either like it or they don't.
There are a couple of exceptions to the rule, certain female organisms with a special genetic code have an interest for logic and science while still having low testosterone, like the world's strongest woman who has low testosterone levels, similar to Samus Aran.
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PostSubject: Re: A theory of phase transitions in thought / consciousness    Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:27 am

Capable wrote:
garbage videos wrote:
Capable wrote:
The idea that thinking, either what or how we think, is entirely or even predominantly genetic is about the stupidest idea one can imagine. Such a belief merely reveals that the one who believes it was never taught how to think well, or even to understand what thinking really is. But maybe that's partly why you believe in reincarnation too.

You're an idiot. You probably believe in eternal nothingness when we die.

You're an idiot. You probably believe that when a glass cup shatters on the floor that somewhere, somehow the "cup" still exist, maybe in cup heaven or just waiting to be reincarnated?

In truth, when you shatter a cup on the floor the cup instantly vanishes from existence. Poof, gone, obliviated. The glass molecules that had formerly contributed to holding the cup in existence still exist, but not as a cup anymore. The cup is gone.

Unless you have any reason to think consciousness is any different than that cup, and if so then go ahead and say so, then it's to be concluded that consciousness too simply vanishes from existence the moment its organic substrate is sufficiently disorganized/destroyed such as to render that conscious no longer possible.

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Thinking is genetic. Just how the fuck do you think brains are made/ Through DNA code.
People have an inherent desire to think, some people do some people don't. Which are you?

"learning to think by books"
By books you mean words, even your choice of words is poor because you can learn online through words not books.
There is a type of thought that doesn't require words, mechanic thought emotional thought etc.

Yeah, again I just have to say that you don't know what you're talking about.

But lucky for you I'm not interested anymore. Maybe someone else can try to civilize you.

You're an idiot. Your own arguments are engineered to defeat themselves.
The cup doesn't even vanish, it changes its shape and form. Just like when you die the form in your consciousness changes form. You are asking death to stop time, you are asking a penny to stop a giant boat.
Cup doesn't vanish it just changes form. You can't even cook up a good example.

Second of all the cup still exists, in your memory which slowly fades.

Third of all there will be more cups in existence after it, existent in your consciousness.
Then your argument is to say that the cups need be exactly the same.
Your body molecules and cells are all swapped, you are not your body or your cells, all of your cells you were born with are already dead.
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