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PostSubject: Re: G(v)d   Sat May 06, 2017 1:13 am

Jim - do wars ever bring about peace?
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PostSubject: Re: G(v)d   Sat May 06, 2017 7:49 am

Drops_Of_Jupiter wrote:
Jim - do wars ever bring about peace?

Well, the USA is at peace with Japan and Germany. So I guess I have to say, "Yes, sometimes."

But we are not at peace with North Korea or most of the Middle East countries.

The USA's involvement in Korea, Vietnam, and the Middle East have all been failures because they were fought based on lies by our government. Even winning a war does not imply peace if the war was dishonorable.
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PostSubject: Re: G(v)d   Sat May 06, 2017 10:10 am

The US seems to have done better in wars they did not themselves begin.
Perhaps this is roughly the law: either you start a war, or you win one.

 

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PostSubject: Re: G(v)d   Sat May 06, 2017 11:54 am

Fixed Cross wrote:
The US seems to have done better in wars they did not themselves begin.
Perhaps this is roughly the law: either you start a war, or you win one.

Great observation. I love the simplicity of that maxim:

"Either you start a war, or win one."


 

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PostSubject: Re: G(v)d   Sat May 06, 2017 2:31 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
The US seems to have done better in wars they did not themselves begin.
Perhaps this is roughly the law: either you start a war, or you win one.

Yes. Very well said.
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