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PostSubject: Protean thinking    Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:10 pm

Certain concepts are not really concepts at all, but are more like guarantors and signs marking off thus far impenetrable spaces in which, eventually, conception will be able to enter. The good, evil, and freedom are three such "concepts". They tell us only that far more work is still yet to be attempted.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Protean thinking    Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:52 pm

Oh, I think I would have to keep those three as concepts. Subjective concepts at that.

There will be differences between individuals as to what id good, evil and freedom.
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PostSubject: Re: Protean thinking    Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:36 pm

The subjective differences between individuals as to what these three 'concepts' mean, is a quite different thing than is the claim I am making here in the OP... namely that these are not really concepts at all, but the guardians of the spaces in which future conception will/must take place.

 

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"Was it necessary for the sense of truth that Nietzsche described as developed by the Judeo-Christian tradition that then manifested itself in the scientific methodology to turn against the symbolic foundation of that structure and demolish it... Jung's answer was that the conflict between science and religion is a consequence of the immature state of both of those domains of thinking... it's just that we aren't good enough at being religious or at being scientific to see how they might be reconciled." -Jordan Peterson
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PostSubject: Re: Protean thinking    Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:25 am

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The subjective differences between individuals as to what these three 'concepts' mean, is a quite different thing than is the claim I am making here in the OP... namely that these are not really concepts at all, but the guardians of the spaces in which future conception will/must take place.

Yeah, I really did read your post. I can't say that I understood what you were pointing at though.

So let's add one more to the three you mentioned: Imprisonment.

Now we have "good/evil" and "freedom/imprisonment".

These are dualistic concepts of the human brain. The two end points of a straight line.

Sure, we could call them guide posts. Choosing good over evil and freedom over imprisonment.
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PostSubject: Re: Protean thinking    Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:25 pm

Capable wrote:
The subjective differences between individuals as to what these three 'concepts' mean, is a quite different thing than is the claim I am making here in the OP... namely that these are not really concepts at all, but the guardians of the spaces in which future conception will/must take place.

Do you mean to say that as we change our way of thinking and evolve, they are ideas which will branch out and transform into entirely different concepts?

 

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