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PostSubject: News media bullshit    Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:05 am

I guess it's time for this topic.

BBC interviewed some "foreign policy expert" of the Obama administration who happened to be in Taiwan, supposedly (turns out the media lies plenty about that sort of thing, but that isn't the point right now). Pay attention to the news and you will see the blatant bullshitting they use to manipulate the listeners. In this case, the news anchor asks the person in Taiwan about Trump's statements regarding Taiwan and specifically he asks "what is the reaction in Taiwan?"

So the interviewee goes on an immediate tangent about how stupid Trump is, with the gist being that we shouldn't piss off China. So now the US is supposed to ignore the long-standing sovreitn claims of other people and nations in order to kiss China's ass? Basically the message was that the US is already globalist and the sovereign claims of another nation are irrelevant. Oh yeah, and she never answered the initial question about the reaction in Taiwan... why? Because that would show support for what Trump is saying.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:37 am

Anther one out of the Bullshit Broadcasting Company or "BBC":

A story about Ebola concerns in Liberia in 2015. During the story, and by the way I think it's a nice bit of Orwellian newspeak that the news calls their reports "stories" now, there is a comment made that the CDC has to supply drugs to some gang kids who were to be isolated for concern of Ebola exposure; supposedly the kids were drug addicts so to convince them to isolate for 21 days the government along with CDC help from the US needed to take care of their needs, food and drugs too basically because they were addicts. But then the newscaster is quick to say that "according to the CDC they never actually supplied drugs to the kids", as if to assure the wary listener who may have a problem with his tax dollars being used to supply drugs to kids in another country.

Then immediately after this confusing statement, given the rest of what was already said namely alluding to that the kids were supplied with drugs, there is a CDC official quoted laughing and saying "He (some Liberian official) was saying that we, the CDC, supplied marijuana. (Laughs) No, we didn't, we supplied the cocaine."

And of course no comment or clarification by the newscaster. So the listener has now heard opposing claims twice (first the allusion that the CDC supplied drugs to kids then this being outright denied by the newscaster himself quoting a source "according to the CDC", which is already confusing, and then we hear an actual audio clip of someone supposedly in the CDC saying they supplied cocaine but not marijuana, and he laughs as he says it). And then basically the story is over.

What the fuck? Did they or did they not supply the drugs? I don't care if they did, but this level of deliberately confusing and contradicting information shouldn't be considered "news". I think "stories" like this have the effect of breaking down people's desire to seek the truth. I mean the news companies are obviously deliberately providing contradicting claims with not even any acknowledgment that they or anyone else should care that the claims are contradicting. How fucked up is that?

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:13 pm

It's all about mind control anymore. They tell us only what they and the governments want us to know. And most of that is nothing but lies. I don't trust the governments any more and I have started distrusting the media recently.

Nothing more than efforts to keep the people confused and afraid.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:04 pm

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It's all about mind control anymore.  They tell us only what they and the governments want us to know.  And most of that is nothing but lies.  I don't trust the governments any more and I have started distrusting the media recently.

Nothing more than efforts to keep the people confused and afraid.

Agreed. I'm fucking sick of all the lies and bullshit. This goddamn neolib machine needs to die a slow and agonizingly painful death, so its sins are inscribed upon the heart of humanity forever.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:07 am

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Agreed. I'm fucking sick of all the lies and bullshit. This goddamn neolib machine needs to die a slow and agonizingly painful death, so its sins are inscribed upon the heart of humanity forever.

Keep in mind though, this shit started nearly 60 years ago and has grown into a monster. It won't be easy to kill it.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:11 pm

Here's a new one I just heard on the media news: apparently when a baby drops a spoon over and over it's because the baby is "interested in gravity" and because a baby is "trying to understand that nothing falls up". ..."The baby is deliberately performing an experiment based on a hypothesis it has". "Turns out that babies use the same logic as we adults do, and they apply it just as rigorously".

I'm not even making this up.

We live in the era of absolute mind-death. Fuck this shithole planet.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:07 pm

Capable wrote:

We live in the era of absolute mind-death. Fuck this shithole planet.

Easy now. This is the only one I have to live on right now. And we don't have to listen to all the shitheads who are trying to control our mind.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 am

During a story on public radio today, the newscaster said "the star spangled banner represents our whole government, not just the policies we like but the ones we don't like too."

So apparently the star spangled banner song is no longer about America the nation, but is about "the government". And not just the government but its "policies", good and bad policies alike even.

Unbelievable. It's quit subtle how they sneak these things in. You know it isn't an accident when word choices like this are made.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:26 am

Oh yeah and in another public radio broadcast this week the reporter said something about Paul Ryan and his fall from former power as a leader, due to Trump, and then added, "but in the New World Order (then a reference to Trump winning the presidency)", and added that Ryan "seems to be channeling Trump".

What the fuck can you even make of something like that? Remember these aren't off hand comments, these news stories are written down for the reporter to read on-air. So while you listen to stuff like this and it sounds like the reporter is just speaking from their stream of consciousness, remember that they have a piece of paper or a teleprompter in front of them and are literally just reading something that someone else put in front of them.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:06 pm

Look Ive worked for tv sand the writers are selected on their capacity to lie and rape babies in the ass. At one point when I went out to film an islamic festival they demanded id come back with images of women bloodying their hands and waving their bloody hands in the air. The guy was just shrugging when I suggested that that wouldn't really happen. Mind you this was an Idealistic Left Wing tv station.

If all journalists would die, the world would probably be fine instantly. They are so, so much worse than cancer. And so much worse than Islam.


Literally all they ever do is justify their overpaid job by wrapping their previous whoring and lying into a fresh layer of even worse lies. These miscreant losers are doing that now, spending their cardiac-arrest-bound 'lives' conjuring up terms and phrases to convince themselves for a split second that they are not what they very well know they are - people who should hang themselves from the nearest tree within the next hour for their own good.

Trust me, all of them are suicidal wrecks, all of them on medication, and all they ever do in a day is circulate black poisonous goo between their bladder and brain, while their whitish, blubbery heart pumps their piss up and down along with it.

Bloodless, lifeless, worthless sub-entities. They have no choice, because they have no soul, no will, no mind, they only run from the cosmic shame of their entire lives to their next fix of what they imagine to be selfhood, manifested in what they call a "blurp".

These arent people. These are pieces of semianimate goo living from blurp to blurp. I had figured theyd take our civilization down with them, but then Trump happened. Who now, uninaugurated, simply rules the world by twitter.

Others apply fourteen trillion in clusterbombs and are humiliated, he needs just 140 characters and is heeded across the world.


The journalist are all headed for the hell of a life beyond power and identity, and they know it. What you hear on the radio and tv is literally more foul than what you'd get if you'd take a shower under a sewerpipe. It's the sewage of self-loathing that has become a circuitry unto itself producing excess. All this is very literal, and ties directly into my 2011 theory that there is no such thing as "Humanity", not a good thing anyway, and that most people don't actually exist.

Humanity needs to be re/created, and we've been on our way, and we're making extreme advances. The other side of the coin of ths process is that all that will not attain to humanity and proper existence will reveal itself in its pure despair.

Our 'task' is to comfort those that still believe there is any thing to look for in the goo, that there isn't. To make it clear that this goo isn't actually what we, the living, regard as life.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:40 am

I'm so glad I don't listen to the people you guys listen to.

In fact, I don't listen much. I observe what has been done.

But the arguments above are strong. Probably why I don't listen.

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:32 am

Another public radio story today, interviewing Mexicans in Mexico about how "their Ford plant" isn't going to be built there, how unfair it is, how bad Trump and Ford are, etc blah blah. "We needed that plant for jobs, what will we do now?" ....oh I don't know, start your own fucking industries, or fix your own country maybe instead or leeching value from others? Do these clowns even realize Ford is an American company? Do they even realize that the ONLY reason Ford or any US company would build factories in Mexico is because Mexico has a shitty enough economy to where it actually makes financial sense to build a car in a foreign land and then ship it back to the US?

I'm so tired of all this. I turn on my radio and hear crying Mexicans blaming Trump for their woes. When does this shit end?

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:54 pm

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I'm so tired of all this. I turn on my radio and hear crying Mexicans blaming Trump for their woes. When does this shit end?

It will likely never end during my lifetime. It is so much easier to sit on your ass and bitch about people not giving you enough of what you want than it is to get up off your ass and work to earn what you want.

Socialistic Commie Bastards!

Sorry about that. Hehehe. Their country is still too corrupt for the people to do anything constructive. There are a lot of honest, hard-working Mexicans just as there are those types of people all around the world. But they need opportunities in order to shine.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:19 pm

While recounting a story about school, I said to a friend today about how it is painful for people to be loved for their weaknesses. She said very astutely that she figures most people love people for their weaknesses rather than for their strength.

This woman is very powerful in her thinking. I think she is right. And Ill tell you right away I think that to love someone for precisely what they suffer of in themselves, that is pure evil. I have no regard for such people, I don't consider them sane or worthy or anything except wretched filth.

That is where all evil comes from. Loving people for their weaknesses. No doubt whatsoever.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:29 pm

What a creature with a heart does is to accept weaknesses to a point, beyond which one tries to resolve them, and to love strengths. Love a persons self-valuing, and accept whatever pain that comes with.

To love the pain a person has, and try to 'close him/her  in your heart' all in terms of that pain... who else does that but the stewards of hell? Jesus Christ. I'm sickened by the idea such people exist, but since my friend said it, I can see this is kind of a rule among the populace. There is zero doubt most of them are in the Clontin camp.

Whats extremely funny is that they made a whole season of Homeland, based the US having a female president who is all in favor of Arab immigrants and against 'race profiling' (as long as its not the 'white' 'race', naturally). So they spent their whole budget on the gamble, to them the certainty, that Clontin would win. The fragments they had of the female president were equally horrifying as any Clontin appearance.

Quite astonishing.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:20 am

Fixed Cross, you are not talking about love in the above. You are talking about people controlling those with weaknesses. That's not love!

I am so glad the Obama administration is coming to an end. Maybe the American people are starting to wake the fuck up?

The US government during the past 16 years totally ruined the Middle East. We have destroyed everything that was good about it and promoted evil.


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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:38 pm

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Fixed Cross, you are not talking about love in the above.  You are talking about people controlling those with weaknesses.  That's not love!

It's not what I call love either, but still just as flies love shit, these lowly entities love weakness. It's a word ... with very, very many meanings. I believe it means something different each time it is pronounced. Why I use "valuing" - it's essentially the same but more clinical. Love is per definition transcendent; it is the path whereby one becomes oneself, and it has no boundaries, fears, it simply wills fate. One is lit by love like a fuse. Human love can transcend even fate, and become destiny; and that is what I personally pursue as self-valuing.

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I am so glad the Obama administration is coming to an end.  Maybe the American people are starting to wake the fuck up?

Unexpectedly, the American people turn out to be incredibly awesome and awake. Cloontin voters have clearly voiced that America is shit, and its founding lineages worthless. I wouldn't go so far as to call them Americans. They're also waking up, but right out of REM.
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The US government during the past 16 years totally ruined the Middle East.  We have destroyed everything that was good about it and promoted evil.

It's tough. Arabs are tough. Jews are even tougher, and Persians don't take shit from anyone. They'll have their moment, when they wash out the radicalism. It will be after China takes them on. When we withdraw, England and China are gonna move in. If they are wise, they use the Turks better than I can know how to - turkey is the key to every Western/ME relationship. Ancient Greece, Byzantium, then the Ottomans, then Atatuurk, the only properly successful, i.e. constructive fascist in modern history. It was this that was finally able to contain Islam. Erdogan broke Atatuurks near century old regime of rational secularism. Before that Israel and Turkey were the best of friends, which contained with some success the many excesses of mass-religion. Judaism is not a mass religion, it can afford a bit more reflective depth, or rather it requires it in order to survive. Turkey must also be extremely circumspect. It has Russia at its borders. Russia, China, Turkey: Asia Major.

Arabs are the most beautiful people to me, and so my girlfriend is Arabic. They should steer clear of politics, it is too crude for them.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:10 pm

What do you make of this Intelligence Report that claims to prove that Russia was behind all this covert operations and hacking to benefit Trump? I am tempted to see this as a deliberate and massive deception, for obvious reasons. I read a brief story about the report, and no evidence was presented in it... supposedly the public version of the report, 20 pages or so, has some evidence in it but I haven't read it.


 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:25 pm


    "Viewed as a whole, the above evidence looks strong, and maybe even damning. But view each piece on its own, and it’s hard to feel impressed.For one, a lot of the so-called evidence above is no such thing. CrowdStrike, whose claims of Russian responsibility are perhaps most influential throughout the media, says APT 28/Fancy Bear “is known for its technique of registering domains that closely resemble domains of legitimate organizations they plan to target.” But this isn’t a Russian technique any more than using a computer is a Russian technique — misspelled domains are a cornerstone of phishing attacks all over the world. Is Yandex — the Russian equivalent of Google — some sort of giveaway? Anyone who claimed a hacker must be a CIA agent because they used a Gmail account would be laughed off the internet. We must also acknowledge that just because Guccifer 2.0 pretended to be Romanian, we can’t conclude he works for the Russian government — it just makes him a liar.

    Next, consider the fact that CrowdStrike describes APT 28 and 29 like this:Their tradecraft is superb, operational security second to none and the extensive usage of “living-off-the-land” techniques enables them to easily bypass many security solutions they encounter. In particular, we identified advanced methods consistent with nation-state level capabilities including deliberate targeting and “access management” tradecraft — both groups were constantly going back into the environment to change out their implants, modify persistent methods, move to new Command & Control channels and perform other tasks to try to stay ahead of being detected.

    Compare that description to CrowdStrike’s claim it was able to finger APT 28 and 29, described above as digital spies par excellence, because they were so incredibly sloppy. Would a group whose “tradecraft is superb” with “operational security second to none” really leave behind the name of a Soviet spy chief imprinted on a document it sent to American journalists? Would these groups really be dumb enough to leave cyrillic comments on these documents? Would these groups that “constantly [go] back into the environment to change out their implants, modify persistent methods, move to new Command & Control channels” get caught because they precisely didn’t make sure not to use IP addresses they’d been associated before? It’s very hard to buy the argument that the Democrats were hacked by one of the most sophisticated, diabolical foreign intelligence services in history, and that we know this because they screwed up over and over again."

    https://theintercept.com/2016/12/14/heres-the-public-evidence-russia-hacked-the-dnc-its-not-enough/

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:30 pm

I don't want to read a word these fuckers say, that is all subhuman goo to me. I know that the NSA meddles in every pc and smarphone on the planet, and I know the hacks did what the journalists were supposed to do, and I know Assange claims it wasnt the Russians, and I know the CIA presented false evidence to start wars very recently... I am sooner going to read the koran than 'evidence' that some misdeed was the cause of the greatest psychopath of the planets loss to Trump.

I'm very far beyond all that, I set my own rules.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:35 pm

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I don't want to read a word these fuckers say, that is all subhuman goo to me. I know that the NSA meddles in every pc and smarphone on the planet, and I know the hacks did what the journalists were supposed to do, and I know Assange claims it wasnt the Russians, and I know the CIA presented false evidence to start wars very recently... I am sooner going to read the koran than 'evidence' that some misdeed was the cause of the greatest psychopath of the planets loss to Trump.

I'm very far beyond all that, I set my own rules.

Doing a little more research now.. it looks like the DNC refused to give the FBI access to their computer servers, and the DNC had already hired a private cybersecurity firm to represent them and do the investigation work, so the FBI has to get its data from that firm... lol.

Yeah, all of this smells like "cover-up". None of it feels real. I suppose I don't have any "proof", but then again apparently neither to John McCain and Obama, or else they would have already given it.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:36 pm

No matter how hard we want to believe they mean what they say, the past generation of politicians, they've never actually done that.

It was quite literally impossible to win at the now ruined game without having a smirk that overtly hides at least three layers of deceit. That was what was felt as selfrespect in the Washington elite. I saw it on every single high placed face, oozing with selfsatisfied disdain for such meager things as truth or people.

Putin figured out that it would be handy to ruin their game, and tell the truth while smirking like a liar. It's brilliant, as one never knows when he speaks the truth now, and such joyous ambiguity is very truthful for a politician to exude. Trump took this from him it looks like.

I see politics as being made in the future. A true politician is someone who plays a stockmarket of power. Elections campaigns represent a people prospecting the acres of tried values for fresh power. All values on this Earth have been known to man, except full philosophy.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:48 pm

Things are quite a bit more fucked up than I am sure we know...

I am starting to take a little interest in this site, started by a few people including Glenn Greenwald.


    "A JSOC official told me that the intended target was not killed in the strike, though he would not say who the target was. On October 20, 2011, military officials presented a closed briefing on the JSOC strike to the Senate Armed Services Committee. With the exception of the statements from anonymous U.S. officials, the United States offered no public explanation for the strike. The mystery deepened when AQAP released a statement claiming that Banna was, in fact, still alive. “These lies and allegations announced by the government … are not unusual … the government has falsely declared the death of mujahedeens many times,” the statement declared. The Awlakis began to wonder if perhaps Abdulrahman was, in fact, the target of the strike.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, one of the handful of U.S. lawmakers who would have access to all intelligence on the strike, seemed to suggest that was the case when asked about the killing of the two Awlakis and Samir Khan. “I do know this,” he said on CNN, “the American citizens who have been killed overseas … are terrorists, and, frankly, if anyone in the world deserved to be killed, those three did deserve to be killed.”

    Robert Gibbs, Obama’s former White House press secretary and a senior official in the president’s 2012 reelection campaign, was also asked about the strike that killed Abdulrahman. “It’s an American citizen that is being targeted without due process of law, without trial. And, he’s underage. He’s a minor,” reporter Sierra Adamson told Gibbs, during a press gaggle after a presidential debate where Gibbs was serving as a surrogate for Obama. Gibbs shot back: “I would suggest that you should have a far more responsible father if they are truly concerned about the well-being of their chil- dren. I don’t think becoming an al Qaeda jihadist terrorist is the best way to go about doing your business.”

    The Awlakis were left only with questions about why their grandson had been killed. They wondered if somehow the US government had used Abdulrahman to find Anwar. Perhaps, as had happened with the killing of the Yemeni regime’s political opponents in the past, the United States had been fed false intelligence about Abdulrahman’s age and connections to al Qaeda. "

    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/05/alleged-target-of-drone-strike-that-killed-american-teenager-is-alive-according-to-state-department/


That's some fucked up shit.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:58 pm

Hey, I take Auschwitz as my model for what I expect of these people. I'm not surprised at the fact that they send drones to bomb hospitals and funeral processions to create unrest, nor that they lie about their purposes or targets and results.

Things are always proving exactly as fucked up as Ive always known they are. The reason I am so clairvoyant is that Ive never seen humans look out of their eyes in the same way as they speak, except when they are on stage or heavily intoxicated.

I know we are a sick race, and have invariably chosen our sickest to lead us, with the exception of moments of direct threat of total annihilation. Churchill, Trump - not many others I can think of in recent history. I know philosophy is the only cure for this sickness.

The times for a righteous government have quite simply arrived. Now humanity will take three centuries to open the gate, and then it will storm out trying to kill it, and finally, the Earth will be swallowed by the Sun. Or maybe we can just go with the times and make government out of value ontology.

 

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