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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:55 am

Imagine the diseases and pills that run these "peoples" lives. They are probay all leaking acids from the back. Their entire existence is the stress of having to stack yet another lie on the last one and pretending to themselves to feel right about that.

Dying off, haha. Will be satisfying to see it all fall down.



 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:00 am

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Yeah, I am still seeing more opinions than facts in the news.  It might be something I will just have to get used to.

I'm not a slave, so....... no.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:55 am

CIA, NSA, and MSM still offer no proof or evidence whatsoever that Russia hacked the DNC emails.

Yet that doesn't stop them from tirelessly repeating the narrative.

In contrast, two key people have come out stating it wasn't Russia: Ambassador Craig Murray, and Julian Assange. Assange states they obtained the emails by someone inside the DNC but refused to say anymore for fear of compromising that person's identity; Murray says he met with the person who leaked (not hacked) the emails and they are "definitely not Russian".

Of course Putin denies it too, but since he would probably deny it even if he had some hand in it, we need further sources.

Other thing to consider is Vault 7 and how apparently the hack, if it even were a hack, which it doesn't appear to be or at least no evidence has been presented by those who claim it was a hack, the deep state or any other rogue agent or state could have used NSA tools to make the hack appear to have originated from anyone they wanted to blame, including Russians.

Of course you don't hear even one single word about any of the above, in any of the MSM.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:08 am

Two or three months ago Assange already said the leaks didnt come from the Russians. I published that everywhere, it seemed like my words were entirely invisible.

Truth plays no role for the opposition party, but worse than that, it doesnt even exist. That is to say, it's not that they dont discern between truth and lie, but they do - and whenever a statement is true, it is considered non-existent.

A form of living death, I think quite literally. The Democratic party, feminism, socialism, black-ism, all this racist insane clown posse is literally only excess, no roots in ontos, except biologically, not humanly.

If there ever was a time we could call the Apocalypse, or the end of all things, it is this time. We're seeing the undead now. Im not kidding, im not exaggerating, I mean this. These people arent human, they arent living, they arent of this earth of of 'god' (truth) - they are golems of the clay.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:25 am

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Yeah, I am still seeing more opinions than facts in the news.  It might be something I will just have to get used to.

I'm not a slave, so....... no.

Yeah, I accept that without question.

But still, there are many people who are being tricked by the media and the government (and religions too).
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:28 am

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Two or three months ago Assange already said the leaks didnt come from the Russians. I published that everywhere, it seemed like my words were entirely invisible.

Why would anyone believe you if what you say doesn't agree with what they believe? For most people, their opinions are worth more than any truth.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:04 pm

Yes, they aren't human, but "opine".

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:15 pm

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Yes, they aren't human, but "opine".

That has been proving itself true these past 6 months. Opinion is more important than the truth.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:19 pm

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Yes, they aren't human, but "opine".

That has been proving itself true these past 6 months.  Opinion is more important than the truth.

Only to non-entity-ness.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:22 pm

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Only to non-entity-ness.

Well, if one has no values I suppose opinions are the best one can do.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:25 pm

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Only to non-entity-ness.

Well, if one has no values I suppose opinions are the best one can do.

Haha, yes exactly. Well said.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:02 am

NPR story today about how most biomedical research is essentially fraud and incorrect, but we are supposed to believe the scientists just "make mistakes because they're human" and "have low budgets". Of course they use the story to attack Trump and his budget... so yeah, apparently the fact scientists make up results, rush studied improperly, can't corroborate results, don't use a statistically significant number of mice for testing, all of that is basically Trump's fault. Lol.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:46 am

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NPR story today about how most biomedical research is essentially fraud and incorrect, but we are supposed to believe the scientists just "make mistakes because they're human" and "have low budgets". Of course they use the story to attack Trump and his budget... so yeah, apparently the fact scientists make up results, rush studied improperly, can't corroborate results, don't use a statistically significant number of mice for testing, all of that is basically Trump's fault. Lol.

It is sad what the media is doing now. Opinion without verifiable fact. That's not news - it's gossip. Sometimes called bullshit.
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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:25 am

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NPR story today about how most biomedical research is essentially fraud and incorrect, but we are supposed to believe the scientists just "make mistakes because they're human" and "have low budgets". Of course they use the story to attack Trump and his budget... so yeah, apparently the fact scientists make up results, rush studied improperly, can't corroborate results, don't use a statistically significant number of mice for testing, all of that is basically Trump's fault. Lol.

It is sad what the media is doing now.  Opinion without verifiable fact.  That's not news - it's gossip.  Sometimes called bullshit.

Right. No one bothers to point out that you can't prove demonstrably exactly who deployed nerve gas in a matter of a day or two, but no one in media will even question the narrative they have been given by their corporate overlords. I thought Trump was better than that, and I think he is, but they have something over his head and he's just a puppet now. Best to discount him from here on out, I am sad to say.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:46 am

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Right. No one bothers to point out that you can't prove demonstrably exactly who deployed nerve gas in a matter of a day or two, but no one in media will even question the narrative they have been given by their corporate overlords. I thought Trump was better than that, and I think he is, but they have something over his head and he's just a puppet now. Best to discount him from here on out, I am sad to say.

I'm not ready to give up on him yet. We honestly should not be involved in Syria. We have problems elsewhere we haven't resolved yet. But we are there now. Damn!

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:27 am

I am probably the only Trump supporter who thinks its great that finally the US gives off a signal. This war was started by Obamas words and policies and then left to burn down millions of lives along with sinking Europe.

It has been open savage war for 5 years under US supervision and under full and complete US responsibility. Now the US has finally hit its first military target.

I knew they could hit something other than hospitals.

Now suddenly the Russians agree that support for Assad is not unconditional. Good. It is impossible to have stability with a leader that 90 percent of the population has lost family to.

Not saying I see a solution on the horizon but I definitely do not see escalation in this. I rather saw the hands off policy as the most irresponsible and cruel method of escalating. I had to edit the pipe bomb footage from Homs and Aleppo 4 years ago so I was aware of Obamas toll.

Bottom line for me is that this is the cleanest attack in all these years of war in Syria. Very possibly the first attack in that war not aimed at civilians.

I did talk at the inauguration about the first sanctifying prayer coming from a rabbi. No one seemed to have noticed... but that kind of stuff is no mere formality. He was extremely hawkish.

Of course I am that rare Trump supporter who favors Israel and thinks the US and Israel should dominate the ME. I do not at all inderstand how else world Islamization could be hindered. But control needs to be formal and explicit and leave no chance for "rebel factions" to carve out territory.

The US is in wars all over the globe. In east Asia, eastern Europe, South America and the ME. But the only war that is fully its own responsibility it has avoided. This is the direct result of 12 years of US policy. There is nothing that warrants a hands off position. When youve started a fire,  you dont stand back and blame the fire for burning. You tend to it and quench it before you leave.

Syria is an American war. Time to show up in it and take the responsibility no other power on Earth can take on.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:44 am

But let me be clear: the end result of such a war must not be allowed to be anything less than the final end to World War 1, and the establishment of a permanent western stronghold in the Middle East, which is absolutely necessary to prevent the complete Islamization of Eurasia and Africa.

I know many American isolationists will not give a shit. But I do. I do not give a shit for America that turns its back on the world after having controlled and shaped it during close to a century.

I am very pleased and feel very clean that Trump has resorted to highly visible traditional attacks on a military target.

Obombo secretly targeted civilian targets every week, all of which escalated the war. This first attack on a military target is actually closest thing we have had to a de-escalating attempt.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:46 am

As Molyneux and others are pointing out, there is no evidence and certainly no proof that Assad gassed his own people, and furthermore no rational reasons why he would do that. There are, however, plenty of rational reasons why the FSA, ISIS, or the CIA would stage a false flag gas attack and blame it on Assad.



 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:04 am

What is Syria? An artificial nation, a place that was created deliberately with a minority tribal rulership over a much larger different tribe. Same went for Iraq. The west set up puppet governments that were able to be controlled because the "secular" leadership could never abandon western dollars and military support, since those same leaders were part of a very small tribal minority within their own societies.

Yes I agree that these artificial constructed states are destined for ruin. But on the basis of what causes and factors and to what ends? The west can never reign over the ME, that will never happen, it would basically create a semi-permanent colonial situation where 99% of the people in ME oppose that situation and fester in unrest and revolt. We can't just force Muslim medieval societies to become educated western societies overnight; the only way to attempt to do that would be to basically enslave all of them, openly this time rather than secretly through western-backed puppet regimes. And I'm not in favor of America and Europe turning the ME into a massive neocolonial slavery experiment, even if that could possible work, which of course it cannot.

What the west needs to do is get the fuck out of the ME, period. Let these states and societies and tribal factions war in their region until some modicum of stability and resolution obtains. And we need to be doing this NOW before some of these states acquire nukes, at which point it will no longer be possible.

The west is a totally different cultural heritage, values structure, language set, norms, and religion than the people's of the ME, so how in the fuck could we just waltz in there and fix anything? The rise of ISIS and radical Islam in general is a western creation, probably done on purpose even. Clinton et al are quite happy to aim for the very same goals as Al Qaeda and now ISIS aims for (overthrow Saddam, overthrow Gaddafi, overthrow Assad, seed instability and social unrest generally). No, what we need to do in the west is issue a statement, "We apologize for thinking we can civilize you. The radicalism in your region is our fault, but the medievalism in your region is your own fault, and only you can address it. The best we can do to repent for seeding radicalism and instability in your societies and nations is for us to leave entirely and allow you to work things out on your own." Let the ME people fight and redraw the borders according to more rational and real factors. Yeah this all means that the ME will fall into massive war for decades, but that's going to happen anyway, it isn't like the west can do anything to stop that, short of provoking radicalism to sweep over everything there and using that as a pretext for a total military invasion and open war meant to decimate most of the ME completely, bringing the entire region under overt western control, which seems to be the long-term plan and, correct me if I'm wrong, seems to also be what you are advocating Fixed.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:14 am

I agree that formally the missile strike is clean and deliberate, probably the only one we've seen so far. But that alone doesn't make it good.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:20 am

I really have a different reading. The 20 century ME has been relatively secular until the Carter administration when Brzezinski invented the Taliban and Khomeini got into power in Iran. Thats when the ME turned back to Islam. Iran, Afghanistan, gulf states, Israel, they were all secular socio-capitalist until the US decided it had to stop the USSR by inventing Islamic radicalism.

The insane tribal situation throughout the ME has largely been the result of American refusal to do what that British and French did in the past - maintain a cultural presence that is appreciated, so that government under human principles is possible.

Whoever rules Aurasia rules the destiny of mankind. 4.5 billion people live there, thats not a region you can just isolate from, no matter the size of the oceans.
To withdraw from there now means to have done this:

To destroy civilization there, hand all lives to the devil, and then go home and blame the people you sold into slavery for their slavery.



 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:24 am

"a total military invasion and open war meant to decimate most of the ME completely, bringing the entire region under overt western control, which seems to be the long-term plan and, correct me if I'm wrong, seems to also be what you are advocating Fixed."

No, not at all, that is what I am diametrically opposed to and why I opposed Obombo.

I mean ideological war, fully siding with Israel as we should have been all along, and bit by bit dismantling the structures we've erected to shelter insanity.

Ive been to ME countries, they are absolutely not filled with medievally inclined peoples. That goes far more for central Germany than for Syria. The barbarism is western.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:27 am

And I mean the actual Germans, not the immigrants.



If we side with Israel entirely, move the embassy, and help them restore their temple, Islamic rule will simply crumble, they'll just give up.

Dont forget this is a culture of servitude. When they think god wants them to win, they acquire courage, when the opposition doesn't flinch, they assume they're meant to lose.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:30 am

Its basically a question of how to spend money on the region.

Bush, Clont, Obombo have thrown trillions into islamofascism. If these trillions were given to Israel and the Kurds, the region would be both stabilizing and secularizing very fast.

 

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PostSubject: Re: News media bullshit    Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:32 am

Dont forget all administrations since Carter (even Johnson) have been guided by Polish Catholic antisemite Brzezinski, creator of such sensations as the Taliban and the Ukraine fiasco.

 

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