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PostSubject: Re: Misogyny    Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:24 pm

And unit time is just a form / another form.

This shit is so fucking easy.

QM-worshippers are trying to make everyone else as insane as they apparently are.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Misogyny    Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:00 am

Women recognize value. I think that is their primary purpose and interest. Women indicate values.

A woman exists to identify values, to be a value-barometer. This is 90% unconscious for them but constitutes 100% of what they do/are.

Men work on values, like a sculptor on marble. Men mimic or possess values in order that women recognize them.

It may be impossible for women to consciously recognize values, for that would mean to some degree they were also working on values, sculpting. Which I have never once seen a woman do or take interest in.

If that is true, that it is impossible for women to consciously recognize/work on values, then civilization is in some deep shit considering we have created a philosophical equivalency between male and female at the political level. And even more so, cultural production and entertainment have become guided by feminine ethos. The new logic of civilization is: women "create" (recognize) values, and men work to turn that into a reality. Man as slave to woman.

How did women desire to become creators of value rather than indicators of value? Simple: men have reevaluated women in men's own image, male civilization has exerted tremendous force upon the female until the female became impregnated with a false ideal, the ideal of idolizing male-ness. Men created this problem by demanding an equal partner. Thus perhaps the problem traces back to Shakespeare.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Misogyny    Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:54 am

Therefore an easy prediction: any society/civilization that approaches a level of success at turning females into males will decline rapidly and be replaced by another society/civilization, or a different permutation of the same one, that maintains woman qua woman as a cornerstone value.

Interestingly, the reason most transgender are male to female (something like 10 to 1) rather than female to male is simple: most women are already caught somewhere in the stages of transition into becoming a man. Of course that process cannot be completed and will keep stalling as any new gains represent an exponentially increasing cost.

Lucky for us Trump won, which is a sign that the US people/culture still possesses enough vital earth-depths of honesty to react early in this process, perhaps early enough to force it to stall out before anything serious happens.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Misogyny    Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:22 am

Women indicate value; what does this mean? It means perceiving and responding. Women perceive and respond to values, but it isn't just that they "do" this, or are even aware of it-- this is what they are. Women are perceiving and responding to values.

So what are men? Men are the processing of values, the "cognitive" or mental work-effort that reconfigures being after values. Men know of values because of how women's have indicated those values previously, or at present. Women are the bloodhounds released onto the existential plane sniffing out values, men are the hunters that follow those bloodhounds. Thus any new values that a man finds or makes must be sold to females in order to become truly valuable and known, even to that man himself who found or made them. Namely, the greatest value-creators crave real feminine attention and affection more than other men-- their souls are hotter, they work in a forge, and as such they require a female counterpart which may manifest as sexual energy but really is an expression of how valuation must be ultimately validated by women in order to become socially viable (women must perceive and respond to the new values-- note that this could be either positive or negative response).

A breakdown of woman qua woman means that values are no longer being perceived and responded to. Men do not simply respond to values, men act as value-processing which reconfigures existential substances. And again, this isn't something men "do", this is what men are.

Therefore it is impossible for a man to become a woman, just as it is impossible for a woman to become a man. When a man becomes a woman (as so many men already have done today) this doesn't actually have anything to do with men becoming woman at all, it has to do with men who occupy lower social orders prostrating themselves to men at higher up social orders. Quite simply, a low-class male (in the [always male] power structure) is forced to either fight or placate those above him. A man who transitions into a woman's basically feels himself to be inferior as man qua man.

This means that men who are made to feel inferior "become women" in a strangely metaphysical sense; there is a whole spectrum of how that happens, but I think male homosexuality is on that spectrum. Being sexually attracted to and aroused by a man is a female quality, a quality of ...perceiving and responding to value. Are gay men degenerations of male qua male into a partially feminine archetype in order to express and justify their belief/feeling in their own inferiority as male qua male?

Another option could be that some gay men simply do not value in terms of society, namely female society as perceiving and recognizing value. Men need women for that, but maybe some men are supremely arrogant or unconsciously disconnected from that whole social structure (mostly unconscious structure anyway) and therefore have no need for women to point them to values? Sexuality is the common link between men and women, it allows women's valuing perceiving and responding to communicate to men's value processing-forging. This is what gender really is, and the biological sexes are just a lower sphere upon which this higher existential-metaphysical sphere plays itself out. So men who either 1) have no way or value to participate in that social structure of female value-indicating, or 2) are too low on the social ladder of power, end up becoming gay to some degree.

But many forms of that gayness are probably too weak to affect they sexuality, so such men still sexually like women, but end up emulating feminine nature in other ways, like being an effeminate metrosexual, a social justice liberal, or becoming an emasculated empty shell at the hands of their female partner, to name just a few possibilities of "gay lite".

 

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PostSubject: Re: Misogyny    Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:54 am

Women are fundamentally selfish in nature. The way they self-value seems driven by a kind of maternalism that is always shrinking their conscious sphere, closing it around themselves, intensifying values based only on geographically shrinking the space in which those values are able to actualize. Study a woman closely next time you are around her, and you will see that she is driven by a kind of immediacy of selfish concern, a "self-interest" in the extreme sense.

This contracting pressure works directly against the philosophical impulse to expand the sphere of one's consciousness-- thus the oft-noted fact that women are not philosophers. Their own nature fights passionately against the philosophical method (against the impulse to expand the sphere of consciousness). A woman's sphere of consciousness only expands as a consequence of her always immediate self-valuing qua contraction-pressure stimulating the quantitative increase of her values.

I am not saying any of that is "bad", and certainly a woman is self-valuing, perhaps often even more intensely self-valuing than men do. But this kind of selfishness or self-concern isn't the same as self-valuing, and technically-speaking this selfishness is anti-conscious and anti-mind; it is as if women were animals with language, otherwise incapable of the vast philosophical instinct to reach for the heaven of ideas, to understand and seek out that deeper, wider nature of one's own soul and to be driven not just by immediate self-pleasure or novelty but by truth as such. Because I will be honest now, I have never once seen a women be driven by an awareness of, interest in or passion for truth as such. Have you? I honestly do not think women even know such a feeling/motivation is possible.

In a way the selfish nature of women is a beautiful thing; if you are welcomed inside that nature, which is to say if a woman accepts you as one of her values, then you are given full license of value-benefit by her, and she will value you intensely. She will 'need' you quite strongly and she will happily sacrifice a million other things for you. But the point isn't the beauty of this or how it feels, the point is instead what is excluded and must be excluded from a woman's self-valuing; amidst the intensity of the contracting pressure of her sphere upon itself, at the behest of geographical dislocations and intensifications of value, almost as if she were trying to give birth to her own values, to maximize their gestation and then physically push them outside of herself, a woman cannot properly value the world around her and is not properly even aware that such an 'Other', that such a world even exists. This is one reason why politics under the female psyche and methodology is collapsing all around us. Politics as 'the politics of women and female nature qua the political' has truly taken over everywhere in the west except, to a degree, in America. And as has already become quite apparent, politics as overdetermined by female values and female nature is tantamount to the collapse of politics, indeed to the collapse of much more than just the political.

Proper self-valuing requires awareness and value of the other, of the world, of that which is not yet within one's own self-valuing sphere. This is because that world is the limit and edge, the boundary-line, and tantalizing Otherness/pain that serves as an image of truths by which individual self-valuing is compelled to push beyond its comfortable given forms and seek greater truths. Animals with language merely reproduce tribalism and cannot actually produce a culture, a history; cannot lead to the formation of a mind. This is why the higher form of self-valuing is innately philosophical, in so far as it is always pushing-expanding itself outward, incorporating and testing more and more values, and always growing larger and deeper. This process of expansive/growing/incorporating self-valuing is all that "philosophy" really is, or rather what we call philosophy is the method and process-logic of such a higher self-valuing form.

 

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