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PostSubject: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:35 am

If someone says something against Islam, because of Muslim fanaticism or terrorism or something, that person is immediately branded as a subhuman racist/bigot/idiot for blaming an entire group for the actions of one person. Yet the left/liberal ideology actually believes that meaning and value come from group identification, which is why you are not allowed to criticize Islam itself.

Their very method undercuts itself in a vicious way that can be hard to see. On the one hand they uphold the supreme value of the group, and on the other hand any instances of negative or detrimental consequence that come from the group are relegated away from group responsibility and placed only on the responsibility of the individual. This is a perfect hypocrisy.

Cheap moralism at its finest: black and white good/bad thinking, namely you identify individuals as members of groups, and then you assign a label of either good or bad to every group. Islam is good, liberalism is good, socialism is good, whereas white men are bad, capitalism is bad, conservatives are bad, etc. Now you have the means of entirely voiding yourself of the task of thinking, you simply apply this formula at the unconscious level. Any instance that upholds the rule of good or bad, for whatever group you are talking about, becomes proof of the group status, whereas any instance that contradicts the rule of good or bad becomes denied as being part of the identity of the group.

For example, if a conservative or white male does something good then this is treated as an individual exception and certainly not because those groups have any inherent goodness to them, likewise if something good comes from capitalism that is treated as an exception and must be due to other factors than capitalism itself. Then on the other side, if a liberal or a Muslim does something good this is treated as proof that the group "liberals" or "Muslims" is inherently good, whereas if a liberal or Muslim does something bad this is denied association to the group and the individual person is supposed to take all the blame, as if they are not even part of the group at all.

And that is just it: group-status is based on you upholding the (simplistic and black and white) categories of either good or bad. If you are in a group with a 'good' designation then you must not do anything against the group, and if you do you lose group-status so that no blame can fall on the group. If you are in a group with a 'bad' designation then you must not do anything able to be perceived a good or not-bad, and if you do anything good or not-bad then you are also seen as not representative of that group.

It's all just a load of horseshit.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:31 am

Well, it's not like muslims do have a voice in Europe. Nobody has.

This girl, national pride, took up the veil and stopped rapping. That was felt as a national tragedy by millennials. She explained it was because life in the music industry is not a human life at all, and she wanted a family. Why the veil? It's truly quite radical. But I feel strengthened in the idea that the stronger a religion imposes from above, the more it is attractive to women in crisis. It's not about obeying the rules, it's about believing in them.


 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:37 am

Somehow if you know rules are absolute, it is impossible not to violate them. The Catholics have confession and the excess that is transferred unto the priests and funneled into the order. The muslims have an even keener network, I'm not sure how it works but that it goes without saying.

In fact they have an inner confession process. In general I think many thrive on the prospect of reconciling with gods will as a final aim, rather than as an immediate need. The knowledge of oneself as sinner bound for heaven can work like Paradise, especially on female minds. But then life happens and only a keen mind can protect a woman from religions hellmaking capacities then.

Then again, difficult conditions do breed keen minds, and there is no doubt in my mind that the keenest muslim minds are female. All that is well beyond anyone's reach. The apparent stupidity of their male leaders keeps serving them remarkably well - and it's not oil that keeps the oil in the hands of the Arabs. It's their social coherence, which is a female thing entirely. Men are sweating or useless, women are the center of all doings and goings on a social level. That is why they are veiled - they become a totem out of excess attention.

Religious dogma is passive, thus it is a product of the environment. Temperaments become negatively reflected in religious codices.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:02 am

It's ultimately deeply simple. Muslims have more selfvaluing as a culture than EU-ers.
The EU precludes selfvaluing identity. The Germans are the only exception, because they run the EU. But still it is only very sporadically that a stroke of genius/being occurs. It really can not carry all that weight of leading far older and wiser cultures.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:25 am

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Best line in Trumps speech to me is "My job is not to represent the world. My job is top represent the United States of America."

Ryan's tribute was the distinct mark of militarism, but as the US has since WWII been a militaristic power, it is a wholesome thing for him to make that explicit. To honor all the military that has made sacrifice, and to acknowledge to the world that it is indeed a martial nation. Pricking the boil of murderous hypocrisy.


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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:26 am

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How cute, Bernie Sanders playing make-believe that he is actually the president:

^ He seems very confused.

He is very confused. Likely always has been.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:24 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/02/france-mass-migration-renew-society/

Now this is just too good.

"former investment banker Emmanuel Macron said immigrants are good for France and bring “fresh bursts of creativity and innovation” to society."

Haha. These peoole have literally no intellectual position, no real political agenda or goals and no values. They are pure sycophants and ideologues, not really even human. And they aren't even trying to hide it.

Le Pen must be celebrating already.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:03 pm

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/02/france-mass-migration-renew-society/

Now this is just too good.

"former investment banker Emmanuel Macron said immigrants are good for France and bring “fresh bursts of creativity and innovation” to society."

Ive read the article. That man is clinically insane.

What a disgrace to his nation.

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Haha. These peoole have literally no intellectual position, no real political agenda or goals and no values. They are pure sycophants and ideologues, not really even human. And they aren't even trying to hide it.

Le Pen must be celebrating already.

I think she's fuming, like all real French humans, too disturbed by this sicko to be laughing yet.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:09 pm

Fuck man that Macron is literally dizzying by ugliness. It's actually possible he's uglier than Himmlery.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:33 pm

It is literally a death drive, this push to accept as many foreign, poor, Muslim immigrants as possible. It doesn't even matter that they're Muslim, well yeah it matters but you could have this same problem with any other religious-cultural group too. The differences are too vast, and the failure of integration isn't the fault of France. What he is really saying is that French people aren't bending over enough to allow themselves and their culture to be fucked harder in the ass... sure they're being fucked all right, but Macron is quite literally saying "how dare you hold back, how dare you resist! Yes you are being ass-fucked and you're tolerating that, but how dare you not enjoy it!"

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:57 pm

As for the stock market.... we've seen this before. I'm quite surprised that Trump touted the record market highs in his address to Congress, considering that Trump himself knows it's a bubble and considering that anyone with historical knowledge of 1929 can see the exact parallel right now.




See this is why I get suspicious of Trump sometimes. If I were him I would be addressing this as top priority, not gloating about how the stocks bubble somehow reflects positively on me and my success.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:02 pm

That chart doesnt actually provide data for today, neither dates nor market value, its only a line segment from another graph superimposed on a segment of another graph. We cant even see the trends surrounding and giving contexts to the segment.

Ive been reading about the bubble we are supposedly in but cant find much that actually points to inflated valuations. It seems there are rather secondary phenomena that can be interpreted as warnings.

Trumps enemies have good reason to want the markets to crash, but in actual fact Trump has consolidated global industries immensely, so it may be that the markets will simply grow healthier and keep their value.

I cant be sure at all, ive just begun my analysis half an hour ago. But I dont see any actual value based paralleles with times before crises.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:02 pm

The major problem is that the housing bubble never truly burst. Most likely neither did the tech bubble. Add to that the fact that the Fed Reserve has done QE 1, QE 2 and QE 3 thus artificially kept things moving up and up, meanwhile banks are hoarding cash they cannot use because of the new banking regulations after 2009. Trump wants to undo some of those regulations, which would mean that massive amounts of cash are dumped into the economy at once as banks and other large financial institutions no longer need to keep such large reserves on the books. Real inflation is already higher than official numbers, but imagine how much inflation would increase if a trillion dollars currently being hoarded were to suddenly flood into the economy.

In the US, rental prices and food prices are highly inflated right now. Housing prices are even inflated again, which is funny. But mostly it is in rental markets, there has been consistent increases in rental costs year by year. $1250 a month is an average rent in many modest cities. Basically you have a ton of overvalued real estate that is being paid for because 2008 forced millions of people out of the homes they owned, ruined their credit and their savings, and people generally make less money now, therefore they can only afford to rent; the large increase in the number of renters has driven up the cost of renting, especially since there wasn't a commensurate increase in supply of rental properties all of a sudden. Mostly the same supply plus higher demand equals higher price, and we see that in rental prices.

So the owners of real estate are paying their higher mortgages with higher rental prices on their tenants. Meanwhile the actual value of that real estate is still inflated to a certain degree.

But if you just look at the stock market, QE 1-3 has pretty much guaranteed this stocks bubble. Yes there is more confidence now with Trump, but that alone cannot explain the "trump bump" effect, we are in part witnessing the escalation of the same bubble-effect that was already in motion before Trump even started to run, much less was elected. I agree that some of the increases are based on legitimate increase in value and future expected value, but there is no way to attribute the stock rally to this alone, nor even to it primarily.

What comes up must come down. The most hopeful scenario is a relatively modest fall in the market, a "correction" as it is called, which would probably return the DOW to around 1800 or so. Even that would spark panic, though, because such a fall while being a natural correction would adversely impact investor confidence and cause a whole new self-feeding cycle of downturn. The markets are very complex-chaotic systems, and once a rally or a collapse takes hold it keeps going. Thus the current rally is really just the continuation and logical expected result of the lesser bubble-based rally over the last 2-3 years or so, longer if you want to go back to when the Fed banksters started QE.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:43 pm

Great information.
Ok so I think that a shift to renting, which is a European, dependency system, where debtors are no longer house-owners but actually putting more money into owners hands, could have stabilized the real estate market in an inflated state which is less likely to burst than a bubble built directly on debtors.

In terms of releasing cash, it depends on where it is being released to - technically it could replace much of the foodstamp economy which obviously serves no economic dynamic, is more Socialist than any European country has been since the 1940's, or it could be invested in foreign countries, of course in ways that will yield returns for the American economy, but indirectly, by relieving debts, altering balances, growing other economies with conditions that will feed back into the US as foreign economies are turned to act in ways favorable to the US - and preferably also themselves.

My main problem with the concept of inflation as it's been used, is that it assumes a homogeneity of buying-power. Ive seen first hand that it doesnt work this way. Whern the Euro was introduced, inflation ranged from 20 to 200 percent, depending on the items. Even basic commodities showed vast differences in price changem my guess is that it all depended on whether it was domestic, EU or outside - domestic articles increased vastly inprice, global articles as well, but things made in other EU nations remained relatively stable. I can not guarantee the factual truth of this, it's been my personal elective impression. I read a lot of papers then and not once was it mentioned that different segments of 'the market' follow different trends. This is precisely how the wealthy profit from crises - they do know that in a crash, markets actually become favorable for investment, and that is often precisely why markets are being sunk. My point being only that Trump has the power to sink a few segments of the economy so as to lower prices, like any startup-nation does, and the US is restarting. He can have segments of the economy fall but this time without allowing for private investors to reap all the harvest, and organize it so that public accessibility to devalued goods increases. This would reform the economy from the bottom up.

In the meantime, there are many industries that, for the first time since the 70's, are going to be producing value for the US. These are high value technologies as well as very basic material building and thus mining and forging projects - and that is a segment of the economy typically expressed in less volatile securities. There is little to be gained with nanobanking when it comes to building roads and planning for locally emergent residential and commercial zones. It might be a very good idea to have a market crash of fast-selling as well as overpriced goods, and in the meantime prop up the whole of the economy with invulnerable markets built anew with the simple wisdom that the mere absence of globalist agenda pretty much guarantees for the most sophisticated nation of this time.

A VO based directive: to split up the notion of The Economy/The Market through a system of Tectonics into type-coherent value-exchange and -production segments.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:16 pm

Yes it makes sense to me that the rental dependency has allowed the bubble to stabilize somewhat, whereas in 2007-2008 it burst because pretty much all that debt was the debt of homeowners directly. So now the problem is that people as renters are being gouged, and have lost a sizeable amount of equity wealth. That is quite bad, but you're right that it also stabilized the bubble somewhat.

But that bubble has to pop. In a way, if your analysis it right, then the tendency seems to be to insert distance between bad/unstable investments and the people who own those investments; namely the renter is inserted in the middle as a surrogate responsible party on whom the brunt of the devaluation falls. $1250 a month is quite modest, now, which is crazy because I can remember rents as low as $600 a month less than a decade ago. That's just the modest markets, go look up places like LA, NYC or San Francisco.

Ah-- I just realized something. Student debt is another inserted middle-space meant to separate bad investments from those who own those investments. In this case we have the bad investment being the $50,000 or more that the bank transfers to a university so a student can receive a degree, and of course the owner of that investment is the bank itself; the investment is bad because in a normal market many of those investments would fail (graduates will not land good enough jobs and will default on the high payments, and go into bankruptcy or credit renegotiation), except that the student loan market isn't a normal market and you can't discharge your debt, in many cases you can't enegotiate it either; the force of law was needed to secure these bad debts, and the brunt of the negative effects fall on the students, now graduates who are paying 1/4 or more of all their income to a bank.

Wow. Ok so this is the evolution of a very precise economic mechanism: first the housing debt was attempted to be "middle manned" by bundling mortgages into MBS's and those derivative instruments were used to separate the bad investment (joe average guy schmo's mortgage on a $400,000 house) from the owner of that bad investment (the bank); that didn't work because it didn't actually do anything categorically different, it just basically converted the risk into an insurance market, which was destined to fail eventually. When it failed the government paid off the owners of the bad debt, because the government is basically run by those same peoole anyway. But then the mechanism evolves further into what we described above as the rental bubble stabilizing the larger housing bubble. And alongside all this you also have the student debt situation where students are "renting" their own future and employment from a banking "landlord" who fronted the money for their degree.

This is how it used to be, hundreds of years ago in Europe. A few wealthy landowners rented oeveryone else, all the peasants basically. This is why Marx decried the concept of ownership. But there can't be too many parallels between America right now and Victorian England for example; I like how you explain how different products inflate at different rates and how this is used to manipulate gain out of loss. I'm aware this is basically the means by which "elites" have rigged things to their benefit, inflating prices here and crashing prices these. Trump may be playing the very same game, for all we know.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:31 am

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Yes it makes sense to me that the rental dependency has allowed the bubble to stabilize somewhat, whereas in 2007-2008 it burst because pretty much all that debt was the debt of homeowners directly. So now the problem is that people as renters are being gouged, and have lost a sizeable amount of equity wealth. That is quite bad, but you're right that it also stabilized the bubble somewhat.

But that bubble has to pop. In a way, if your analysis it right, then the tendency seems to be to insert distance between bad/unstable investments and the people who own those investments; namely the renter is inserted in the middle as a surrogate responsible party on whom the brunt of the devaluation falls.

Exactly, that seems like something that could have been planned. A new form of low-risk economic dependency that already existed in Europe.

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$1250 a month is quite modest, now, which is crazy because I can remember rents as low as $600 a month less than a decade ago. That's just the modest markets, go look up places like LA, NYC or San Francisco.

Rather insane. Amsterdam is terrible as well, many people wait over a decade to even be able to have their own rent contract, many never get it.

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Ah-- I just realized something. Student debt is another inserted middle-space meant to separate bad investments from those who own those investments.
In this case we have the bad investment being the $50,000 or more that the bank transfers to a university so a student can receive a degree, and of course the owner of that investment is the bank itself; the investment is bad because in a normal market many of those investments would fail (graduates will not land good enough jobs and will default on the high payments, and go into bankruptcy or credit renegotiation), except that the student loan market isn't a normal market and you can't discharge your debt, in many cases you can't enegotiate it either; the force of law was needed to secure these bad debts, and the brunt of the negative effects fall on the students, now graduates who are paying 1/4 or more of all their income to a bank.

Yes you're right, this has exactly the same net result on the working middle class. They are carrying the wealth of the upper class, through taxes also the welfare of the lowest class.

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Wow. Ok so this is the evolution of a very precise economic mechanism: first the housing debt was attempted to be "middle manned" by bundling mortgages into MBS's and those derivative instruments were used to separate the bad investment (joe average guy schmo's mortgage on a $400,000 house) from the owner of that bad investment (the bank); that didn't work because it didn't actually do anything categorically different, it just basically converted the risk into an insurance market, which was destined to fail eventually. When it failed the government paid off the owners of the bad debt, because the government is basically run by those same peoole anyway. But then the mechanism evolves further into what we described above as the rental bubble stabilizing the larger housing bubble. And alongside all this you also have the student debt situation where students are "renting" their own future and employment from a banking "landlord" who fronted the money for their degree.

I recently saw a movie with Christian Bale where it was quite dramatically portrayed, what it told was that as soon as the collapse became apparent on the horizon, this guy called into being a mortgage short bond specifically to profit of defaults, and then the rating agencies, which rate triple A on anything because otherwise the bank goers to the other rating agency, keep the mortgage values at triple A until all of the owners of these stocks have swapped them for these shorts, so they can directly turn their loss into a profit, larger than the loss they would more logically sustain.

Now because this is a Hollywood movie, i suspect that this is a narrative decoy and there was no lone wolf who discovered this but it was part of a larger and bolder strategy. Defaults are almost always engineered so as for potentiating capitalists to buy up the crashed market, like Rothschild did when he sent a message to London of napoleons triumph at Waterloo, upon which the stockmarket crashed, which he then bought large parts of before the actual news came it. These strategies are far more common on Wallstreet than any kind of honest buying and selling. Even in normal goodsmarkets there is a large amount of scheming, and both the profit levels at that deep market and the ease of deception due to the abstraction of market trends into algorithms, which is a ridiculous system, removing of the link between value and valuation and inserting an empty trend as the signifying selfvaluing, we are all slaves to this artificial vector, especially the banksters who really believe in it and feed it with their lives. But now that weve got a proper government, with the intention of creating a robust production market, it might all turn toward a much more natural sort of growth, certainly it is much easier now, with all technologies, to create wealth. So far technology has been used against Earthly prosperity, or at least it has exhausted the principle by saturating it with efficiency for the sake of efficiency, and ruining the planets surfaces a bit. This can be turned around with an understanding of American capital as a monolithic first-motion type force of a gradual reorganization of resource dependency coupled with a new re-investment strategy to make the Earth lofty again as a planet. It's easy with a bit of architectonic and agricultural imagination. Redistributing capital force from paranoid objectives to natural securities in time will generate unfathomable prosperity.

As essentially all is free. The earth gives all freely. Nothing actually costs money. Only Earth, and labor. Now that all of that, with the help of the enginegrease money, has resulted in divine like power of technocracy, we can basically rest on our laurels. The free West. France maybe, America certainly, Canada as well, and Britain and Australia - I am hoping for Italy, the Netherlands and Sweden to join that group of freely enterprising nations.

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This is how it used to be, hundreds of years ago in Europe. A few wealthy landowners rented oeveryone else, all the peasants basically. This is why Marx decried the concept of ownership. But there can't be too many parallels between America right now and Victorian England for example; I like how you explain how different products inflate at different rates and how this is used to manipulate gain out of loss. I'm aware this is basically the means by which "elites" have rigged things to their benefit, inflating prices here and crashing prices these. Trump may be playing the very same game, for all we know.

I have the feeling Trump has seen the depletion due to these tactics and realized how much wealth was lost in general. I think he is a man that loves Wealth for its own sake... which bodes well for the US. I truly think he's not clever enough to play the truly greasy games. He is far bolder than clever, far more lion than fox. All his fix-moves immediately come out in the open and would embarrass him, if he werent really a lion. Im referring to this phrase of Blake, the fox provides for himself, god provides for the lion. God in this sense is constitutional capitalism, which just feeds types like Trump. He can just absorb all the losses as prospects for incremental gains.

If he does this the US fulfills this adagium of life that cuts into life to such a degree as to increase human knowledge to arttain to a positive notion of The World.
The World is not a democracy. The Will to Power is not a democratic system. The USA wasn't democratically elected to be the first among nations.
You can have a democracy within a wealthy nation. But far more importantly, any nation must have a constitution. A spine, so to speak, where the system of power distribution is the bloodflow, and the soul of the people the heart - democracy is something Greek. A republic is Roman. The combination is a bold experiment for a nation great enough to have to rule the world, or destroy itself.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:47 am

I like your analysis, I've seen that movie too and have been trying to determine which parts are real and which aren't. You're probably right that it was deliberately set up to fall apart as it did, rather than being a colossal fuckup of ignorance and petty greed that only some random genius dude figured out. I'm quite sure it was all set up like dominos.

Let's hope Trump is wise to the tricks and wants to play them back for real gain. The funny thing about these 'elites' (inbred autistic sociopaths) is that they play these games for the most banal reasons, to get more money and power for themselves and to war against "the public". They see the average person as cattle, basically. This is their downfall, that their minds are so distorted and insane they aren't able to participate in real humanity and real values, therefore they cut themselves off from the world and are trying to engineer a 1984 prison planet, as if that would somehow represent a step forward in a philosophical sense. They have no clue what is truth, world, life, mind, progress or value. As I said, they are basically a group of inbred autistics who have idealized sociopathy because they think it gives them an edge in warfare, they are just like Marx, having fallen victim to transhumanist anti-truth methods that ultimately lead to self-destruction. The very reason they are such pure materialists and have no real vision or value is that this is a necessary consequence of the psychological-ontic type that they represent. Even if they were to gain their goal of abandoning humanity and turning us into a global hypnotized cattle species, that would only last as long as it took them and subsequent generations to realize how fucking meaningless all that is, and anyway life and especially conscious life doesn't work like that.

I'm becoming convinced that these 'elites' and their shills are actually the real Last Man. Their project is in fact a great and unconscious world-purging of their very type, of a certain kind of intelligence confined as insane method void of higher truth and philosophy-- read their writings for example, or Marx, and you see what is basically an insectile consciousness. They are at that level, and they like it. So be it, let them rot away in their self-made hell while the existentia slowly works through the cancer-excess they represent.

The biggest problem would be if Trump is secretly one of them. It's possible, but I doubt that is the case. I suppose time will tell.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:36 pm

This is a great and lengthy article and I want to preserve it here:


"The Wall Street Journal’s Globalist Siren Song to Trump: Abandon Steve Bannon and We’ll Love You

For about the thousandth—or is it the millionth?—time, the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal has attacked Donald Trump.


But this time there’s a twist. The Journal’slatest hit-piece targets Trump’s top advisers, Stephen K. Bannon and Stephen Miller, both champions of the populist nationalist policies that propelled Trump to victory.

In their February 27 editorial, theJournal’s editorial board argues that President Trump is acceptable only if he supports the Journal-approved agenda of tax cuts and deregulation, which Trump does. However, Trump’s signature issues of economic nationalism and border security are most definitely not acceptable. The Journal calls these positions “Bannonism”—and that’s not meant as a compliment to Steve.

In reality, the Journal knows that “Bannonism” is really just “Trumpism.” Trump embraced economic nationalism and border security long before he ever met Bannon or Miller, whom he refers to as “my two Steves.”  Of course, that’s why the Journal’s editorialists have opposed Trump all along. But now they’re pretending that Trump could be forgiven for his populism, if only he rids himself of his two Steves.

In particular, the Journal inveighs against what it calls “the polarization strategy pressed by Mr. Bannon, his ally Stephen Miller and the Breitbart wing of the White House.”  The Journal claims this “polarization strategy” jeopardizes Trump’s agenda of tax cuts and deregulation—which are the only domestic policies the Journal really cares about. (As for foreign policy, the Journalis all neocon, all the time.)

(As an aside, Breitbart News doesn’t think there is a “Breitbart wing of the White House,” fun as that might be; we think it’s all the Trump White House—but at least the Journal spelled our name right.)

So we can see the Journal’s strategy: It wants to strip Trump of his Trumpian signature issues by peeling away his key aides.

The Journal’s siren song is: Stick with tax cuts and deregulation only, Mr. President, and we’ll be nice to you.  And, oh yes, get rid of Bannon and, while you’re at it, Miller. 

The Journal yearns to turn The Donald into another business-donor-class-type Republican in the mode of, say, Mitt Romney. They want him to be the sort of elite politician who never met a capital-gains tax cut he didn’t like or an earned middle-class entitlement, like Social Security, that he didn’t want to slash.

Obviously, this “help the rich, hurt the middle class” policy mix is terrible politics, as Romney proved.  Even so, the Journal’s editorialists truly loved Romney. The “King of Bain” was a Republican after their own heart. They stuck with him all through his doomed presidential campaign in 2012, and have continued to champion him even after his defeat. In 2016, they mostly favored the Romney-esque neocon open-border candidate Marco Rubio. But in the Journal’s view, any anti-Trump candidate was better than the man who ultimately won the GOP nomination.

You see, the Journal’s editorialists have long had a domestic agenda diametrically opposed to Trumpism’s economic nationalism and secured borders. This is, after all, the same Journal editorial page that proposed, back in 1984, a constitutional amendment declaring, “There shall be open borders.” Seriously, that was the proposed draft language! And it meant open borders on both immigration and trade.  The Journalclung to that position all through the 80s and 90s; only after 9/11 did it do a rethink—slightly.

These days, the Journal acknowledges that a completely unregulated inflow of people is dangerous, even lethal. And yet, loyal always to its innate libertarianism, the Journal has continued to argue in favor of Teddy Kennedy/John McCain/Lindsey Graham-type “comprehensive immigration reform.”  And its support for free trade has never wavered.

We might pause over the issue of free trade, so near and dear to Manhattan-based Journal editorialists—insulated as they are, in that emerald island, from foreign competition. We can start with the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump, of course, has denounced many times—each time to the chagrin of the Journal-ists. According to the Economic Policy Institute:

'By establishing the principle that U.S. corporations could relocate production elsewhere and sell back into the United States, NAFTA undercut the bargaining power of American workers, which had driven the expansion of the middle class since the end of World War II. The result has been 20 years of stagnant wages and the upward redistribution of income, wealth and political power.'

EPI then sorted the economic impact of NAFTA on American workers into three categories: First, it cost American workers 700,000 jobs as production moved to Mexico; second, it strengthened the power of employers to dictate lower wages and benefits to employees. Third, it set the model for all the other trade agreements since, including the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act, the Dominican Republic-Central America Free Trade Agreement, and, most fatefully, Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. As the Washington Post has noted, since PNTR, China’s exports to the US, on an annual basis, have quintupled.   Indeed, thanks to the globalist hegemony, today, Americans face threats from no fewer than 20 trade deals in place.

The result has been what we all have seen: falling middle-class wages in the US, even as those with higher incomes have gained.  Surveying this damage, Bannon said in November, “The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia.”

Fortunately, the biggest trade deals of all, TPP and T-TIP, have been killed, or will be killed, by the Trump administration.

And yet, the Journal would like Trump to double-down on these disastrous trade policies and continue the sad streak of American politicians who have sacrificed the American worker on the altar of globalism. The shuttered factories littered across the Rust Belt bear witness to this decades-long betrayal.

The Journal’s position shouldn’t surprise us. The paper, owned by uber-globalist Rupert Murdoch, is unabashedly a mouthpiece for what Bannon has called “the Party of Davos”—that global elite, which, superficial differences notwithstanding, is united around core globalist goals. The Party of Davos is, in fact, a uniparty dedicated to drowning patriotism and nationalism in the soup of business-minded one-world-ism. Such a world would be hell for the American middle class, but the Journal thinks it would be heaven.

So this is the true thinking of the Journal’s opinion-mongers as they opine about Trump.  These are the political geniuses who say that Trump’s legislative agenda is doomed so long as Bannon is associated with it.

To which we can answer: Poor Trump!  He has been declared “doomed” so many times!  Not so long ago, he was thought to be doomed never to be taken seriously in politics.  And even after he gained momentum, he was doomed to fail in his quest to win the Republican nomination.  And then, when he became the GOP candidate, he was doomed to lose against Hillary Clinton. At each moment, of course, the Journal was ready to play “Taps”—or, more precisely, tap dance on his hoped-for political grave.

And yet despite the Journal’s fervent opposition, Trump made his way to the White House.  And now, shamelessly, the Journal is offering the 45th President its “sincere” advice.

However, for purely tactical reasons, the Journal might wish for a do-over on that February 27 editorial. After all, this latest Trump-is-doomed screed came just a day before the president’s triumphant speech to Congress—you know, the speech that gained a 78 percent approval rating in a CNN poll.  You read that right, a CNN poll.  (It must’ve pained CNN’s Anderson Cooper to read that poll on the air, just it must’ve pained the Journal editorialists to hear it.)

And did I mention that the Dow Jones average went up more than 300 points on the day after Trump’s speech?  And that it’s up more than 2000 points—or some $3 trillion in total value—since election day?  That’s more than 10 percent; which is to say, it’s a true bull market.  One might think that the Wall Street Journalwould notice that bullish reality and perhaps give Trump, and his advisers, some credit.

Whatever the Journal thinks, the Trump administration must advance its agenda—an agenda of tax cuts, deregulation, andeconomic nationalism, and border security.  No one has a crystal ball foretelling the future, but it’s been proven to be a mistake to bet against Trump.

Actually, there is one thing about the future that we do know: The Journal’seditorial page will continue to be what it’s always been: Never Trump.

To that we might say: Sad. "
 
Follow Rebecca Mansour on Twitter @ramansour



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/02/wall-street-journal-globalist-siren-song-to-trump-abandon-steve-bannon-and-well-love-you/

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:53 pm

I like the idea of attributing the term Last Man to these 'leaders' of the left. That's what I'll definitely do, your attribution makes sense.

It is indeed they who are after only the short lived values and sacrifice all for an illusory safety.
Yes, very fucking good. The "Elites" are the Last Man.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:00 pm

I really don't see that Trump himself could possible reveal to be one of them. His demeanor, bodily fluids, they don't speak the same language as these fake humans.

The difference between a Last Man like Obolko and a man like Trump is that Obolko became president to afterwards move up to a much more important Instagram career.

Trump becomes president as a crown on a very long business career. I can not imagine that, for Trump, there is a higher possible triumph of self-valuing than the presidency, especially at such a historic point. He will not unlikely be remembered for thousands of years. To a man of honor and pride in accomplishment like him, I think that is the highest thinkable glory. A Caesars legacy, no less.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:30 pm

I agree, Trump seems different to me too.

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Hahaha, shit that's hilarious and quite accurate. I actually laughed loudly when I read this. Someone nearby turned to look at me.


On another note I figured out the open borders ethos: it is a political expression of the psychological type of females in so far as females are open-receiving of being impregnated. They literally want the "egg" of their nation to be penetrated-fertilized by the "sperm" of an invading hoard from outside. Thus why open borders is something females like, despite that one might think that because of the essentially protective-closed nature of women that they might actually want strong borders.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:46 pm

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On another note I figured out the open borders ethos: it is a political expression of the psychological type of females in so far as females are open-receiving of being impregnated. They literally want the "egg" of their nation to be penetrated-fertilized by the "sperm" of an invading hoard from outside. Thus why open borders is something females like, despite that one might think that because of the essentially protective-closed nature of women that they might actually want strong borders.

That is brilliant.
Ive read this volume of articles by different original feminists, from the 20's to the 60's or so. What was remarkable that for 4 our of 5 of these self-emancipating female authors, rape fantasies were dominant in their lives. And their feminism was not much more than the fight for the right to talk about their fantasies, especially the rape-ones, which made their husbands uncomfortable.

So now 50/100 years later we have a whole culture of rape-fantasts who desire nothing besides the right to be raped, and apparently now the fantasy has been extended so as for all people to be included as bottom bitches in their ideal of life-as-rape-orgy.

"Social Justice Warrior": Yearning hole. Most of the time leaking acid.

So of course this constitutes a logical contradiction, as they also need rapists, not just rapees - and this neatly explains why they are inviting kartel membes to rape their children, an simultaneously label everyone who is against that rapists, so as for the actual gangbanging rapemurderers to also fall under the emancipated category of successful-rapee.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:31 pm

Haha yeah, and I think there are a few separate causes converging together to make the marriage of left-liberalism, open borders and Islamofacist apologetics. The reason I've said women don't think isn't that I hate women or that I don't believe women can think-- sometimes they do, but I think it is in the nature of women to want to be "penetrated" or said more nicely that they are more naturally open to being changed in a certain way. What is hard is that I also see women as having that concentrating-gathering pattern of sphere of consciousness, whereas men have a more expanding-conquering sphere. But there is a secondary logic here: women are "open" in ways men are not, this openness sometimes manifesting as passivity, and this also translates to women are more open to accepting ideas from outside. If an authority figure tells them, they believe, in other words.

Add to that the fact that left-liberalism is about making the government the big daddy figure taking care of everyone, and you have a dynamic where many women (not all) are psychologically desirous of a governmental external power pushing into them and relieving energetic burden of living. Only so far, of course, but still significant. This is about security over freedom, Hobbes for example.

Now add to all this the materialistic factor that Jordan Peterson talks about is being expressed politically, where it doesn't apply, as women (SJWs and leftists) seeing anyone with a "victim" label as a primary driver of that woman's valuing, namely expressions of weakness immediately co-opt a woman's self-valuing. That's perfectly good when it comes to having a baby or young child, but not so good when it comes to adults or to politics. And of course other women shame each other into not abandoning that sentimentalism, and that links back into political correctness too.

Take all of that together and you can explain what is going on right now.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:35 pm

The neoliberals and liberal politicians are mostly just taking advantage of all this, so they themselves can remain in power.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:53 pm

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Haha yeah, and I think there are a few separate causes converging together to make the marriage of left-liberalism, open borders and Islamofacist apologetics. The reason I've said women don't think isn't that I hate women or that I don't believe women can think-- sometimes they do, but I think it is in the nature of women to want to be "penetrated" or said more nicely that they are more naturally open to being changed in a certain way. What is hard is that I also see women as having that concentrating-gathering pattern of sphere of consciousness, whereas men have a more expanding-conquering sphere. But there is a secondary logic here: women are "open" in ways men are not, this openness sometimes manifesting as passivity, and this also translates to women are more open to accepting ideas from outside. If an authority figure tells them, they believe, in other words.

Add to that the fact that left-liberalism is about making the government the big daddy figure taking care of everyone, and you have a dynamic where many women (not all) are psychologically desirous of a governmental external power pushing into them and relieving energetic burden of living. Only so far, of course, but still significant. This is about security over freedom, Hobbes for example.

Now add to all this the materialistic factor that Jordan Peterson talks about is being expressed politically, where it doesn't apply, as women (SJWs and leftists) seeing anyone with a "victim" label as a primary driver of that woman's valuing, namely expressions of weakness immediately co-opt a woman's self-valuing. That's perfectly good when it comes to having a baby or young child, but not so good when it comes to adults or to politics. And of course other women shame each other into not abandoning that sentimentalism, and that links back into political correctness too.

Take all of that together and you can explain what is going on right now.

Yes, that is beginning to look like a differentiated diagnosis.
we can select a few of these entry points and manipulate some thought to bend them toward a more masculine approach.
A woman wants to be both respected and to be led. She cant feel respected, as Parodites points out, by a man who doesnt respect himself or his passion for her. She must loathe a man who is ashamed to present himself to her, like being covered with shit - this is why women have rape fantasies, to counteract the feeble disgusting approach of civilized men. A man has a rod on him, a woman a hole in her, what the fuck.
yeah, penis envy is understandable. But it's not a guiding principle for a society. Taking it as such has been the error.

Now, kids are being castrated and what not because they are taught gender is a game and "decide" at 5 years old that they want to swap sides. All in the name of mercy. It's sicker than I wish to emote about. I don't relate to the feelings of a disease.

 

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