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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Wed May 30, 2018 9:33 am

All this hurls through space, which is the air element, the clear night sky, in which balls of water turned to fire cause the possibility of earth.

I think Earth is perspective.
The present moment, the power directly ready to be explicit.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Wed May 30, 2018 9:37 am

So when you met Pezer it was a before de Bible opens, lets say, before god separated the heavens from the earth. Now, rain and hail and lightning -

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Wed May 30, 2018 9:41 am

Very acute observations.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Wed May 30, 2018 9:41 am

You can't spell people without pepe.

Haha, just had to throw that in there for some reason, it just occurred to me.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Wed May 30, 2018 10:11 am

Damned, yeah it alway had a feel like that.

"Ol' Pepe" can be an acronym for mankind.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Wed May 30, 2018 10:15 am

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Damned, yeah it alway had a feel like that.

"Ol' Pepe" can be an acronym for mankind.


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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu May 31, 2018 7:32 am

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/05/DeeublQV0AAwOze-640x480.jpg

Cant be without meaning.
I wonder if Kanye is actually going to run.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu May 31, 2018 8:58 am

Finally the culture is starting to shift.

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Thu May 31, 2018 9:09 am

“They’re going to pay for the wall, and they’re going to enjoy it.”


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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:00 am

As I figured Italys IMF loyal president wasn't able to stop the tide. A populist government is forming, because it was clear that, with new elections, populists parties would get even stronger, and through the destabilized markets, Italy would have lost billions in the meantime.  

Also the trade war is on. Trump has imposed tariffs for the EU, and has announced that he'd prefer to no longer see any German cars driving in New York.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:19 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:16 pm


So much for further islamification.

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Conservative politicians have lined up to assert the supremacy of traditional German values and vie with each other in condemning Islamic practices

A law has gone into force in the German state of Bavaria requiring crosses to be hung in the entrances of all public buildings, a step that many church leaders said was “provocative” and would alienate non-Christians. Markus Söder, Bavaria’s prime minister and author of the measure, said it was an “affirmation of our cultural and historical, as well as our spiritual values”. Mr Söder — whose Christian Social Union has governed Bavaria for decades — said the cross was an “integral part of our religion, but it also belongs to the foundations of the state”. His decree shows how important issues of cultural and religious identity have become in Germany since the refugee crisis of 2015-16, when the country let in more than 1m mainly-Muslim migrants. Conservative politicians have lined up to assert the supremacy of traditional German values and vie with each other in condemning Islamic practices such as the wearing of burkas. Horst Seehofer, the national interior minister and CSU leader, recently provoked controversy by saying “Islam does not belong to Germany”. Mr Söder’s decree was equally contentious. [A] cross should be hung, in a visible place, in the entrance hall of every office building as an expression of Bavaria’s social and cultural identity Bavarian cross decree Cardinal Reinhard Marx, chairman of the German bishops’ conference, called it a “provocation, for every Christian, for the Church, but also for the state”. Speaking to the Süddeutsche Zeitung in April, he said the new rule had sown “division, unrest [and] conflict” in society. Cardinal Marx said there should be a public debate in Germany about what it meant to live in a country with a Christian identity. “But you have to involve everyone — Christians, Muslims, Jews, those who do not believe,” he said. Many in Bavaria see the cross debate as part of Mr Söder’s preparations for regional elections in October when the CSU, sister party to Angela Merkel’s CDU, will seek to defend its absolute majority in Bavaria’s parliament. The CSU is eager to win back disaffected conservative voters who have switched to the far-right, anti-immigration Alternative for Germany. In last September’s national election the AfD won 12.4 per cent in Bavaria while the CSU slumped 10.5 percentage points to 38 per cent, its worst result since 1949. “The invisible elephant in the room is of course the AfD . . . which they are trying to keep out of the Bavarian parliament,” sociologist Armin Nassehi from Munich University told German radio. “I doubt they will succeed.” Some in Germany have accused Mr Söder of using the cross for political purposes. “He is abusing the cross for his election campaign and deliberately mixing up religion and politics,” said Claudia Roth, a prominent Green MP. The CSU has hit back, with its secretary-general Markus Blume calling critics of the decree “enemies of religion”. A protest on Marienplatz in the centre of Munich against the new law on showing crosses in Munch state buildings ©️ AFP The measure has proven popular with voters. A recent poll by Bavarian Radio found 56 per cent of the Bavarian population was in favour, with 38 per cent against. However, there has been no noticeable improvement in the CSU’s ratings, which are stable at around 42 per cent. Mr Söder earned widespread ridicule when he announced the decree by himself installing a large cross in the entrance to the state chancellery. Die Welt compared him to Abraham van Helsing, the vampire hunter and crucifix-wielding arch-enemy of Dracula. The decree stipulates that a “cross should be hung, in a visible place, in the entrance hall of every office building as an expression of Bavaria’s social and cultural identity”. It affects all ministries, police stations and courts, but is non-binding on museums, opera houses and theatres. It is the second time in 25 years that Bavaria has provoked national debate over its policy on crosses. In 1995 Germany’s highest court struck down a Bavarian regulation that obliged schools to put up crosses in all classrooms, saying such a requirement was unconstitutional. But it said that if parents and school authorities did not object to the crosses, they could remain in place. In the end, most did stay.  ****

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:41 pm

Im glad about Italy, I just couldn't see how his was not going to happen. Now it'll be anyones guess what happens in response. Im glad people in Italian politics started using the terms Ive been pushing forward for so long, about German's ambitions. All this correlations and correspondences compromise the sovereignty of ping pong causality and reveal some part of the truth about valuing.  Some things are inevitable because of a degree of objectivity in value. Some nations have that, like Italy and the Netherlands in western Europe. --Objective, or lets say universal. But Im not interested in objective if it doesn't mean universal, Im synthetic like that, megalomanic, but only when someone else starts it by being objective in the moral sense, metaphysics. Tyranny is the only answer to it.-- These nations evoke in the world a meaning that is attributed to humanity as a whole. Italy has pure tradition, the Netherlands have pure teleological autarky. Both produce a vast surplus of instinct to be involved in the task of breeding health and forms of happiness. Happiness is a luxury based on the successful pursuit of other things, it is approached indirectly in greater powers. Comfort is not a value, it is either discomfort or luxury. Much has to be sacrificed for such standards, like the EU and other institutions that bridle the will to power of nations.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:31 am

I agree.

On happiness yes it is always an excess of other things, it cannot be sought for directly. Happiness and value are side effects of “doing the right things”.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:33 am

Poor Zizek, lol. He must be quite depressed at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:27 am

I think value is actually the direct result and also the impetus, value is "the right thing", even doing the right thing is value.

But happiness is merely a being saturated with having been a value, being the right thing, essentially.

Doing and being are of course not actually different categories.


 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:32 am

Self valuing is itself value in different ways - it isn't possible to self value without being something in terms of other self valuings dwelling in the same or connected contexts, be it negative or positive.

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:31 am

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I think value is actually the direct result and also the impetus, value is "the right thing", even doing the right thing is value.

But happiness is merely a being saturated with having been a value, being the right thing, essentially.

Doing and being are of course not actually different categories.


Yes, to clarify what I said, "On happiness yes it is always an excess of other things, it cannot be sought for directly. Happiness and value are side effects of “doing the right things”." - value is diffuse and multi-layered, 'everything is a value/a valuing' is a logically correct statement. Happiness is that state of the organism being full in its own successful values and valuing. Happiness is a kind of "metaphysical" recognition of a simple fact, the fact of successful being-valuing.

Thus, people who seek happiness for its own sake as a primary desire, are bound to lose their happiness since happiness is always a side-effect. It is fine to value happiness, but one must understand that valuing happiness is to be done by valuing that which leads to happiness, not by attempting to value happiness as such and for its own sake. Although we can value happiness for its own sake, that is fine (we all like being happy and want to be happy), so long as this does not become primary and compromise the actual value-mechanisms by which happiness will be produced as a natural consequence of one's actions and ways of being.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:23 am

Damn. Yeah, Roosevelt's economic politics, the New Deal, were of course straight out Socialist. So was the Marshall Plan.
Ayn Rand was right after all.


 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:27 am

dont frolic
we're discussing politics
dont bother
listen to your fathers fathers father
when life was harder
you don't own yourself, you gotta barter
for the right to exist and even so you'll be a martyr
yeah bitch, thats how it is, how it go,
spending money on whatever for the show
hos dipping it low picking up the dough
thrown out the window of the Party limo

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:30 am

It does appear that way, yes.

But I do maintain that this is all one huge self-testing of western civilization so called. I dare say that all ideas that matter have come out of the west. For good or bad. I mean, I’m sure there are some significant ideas that have come out of places beyond the west, I just don’t know what those are.

And of course the whole one world government NWO thing comes into play too, since mass migration and the resulting 1) social unrest, 2) decline in patriotism and national sovereignty, 3) fracturing of European and American people into for or against on the issue, 4) draining of capital en mass, 5) inevitable blending of all peoples together such that individual ethnicities become almost non-existent, all of that plays right into the hands of those who would like to turn earth into a single global superstate. I am quite sure that the EU is just an initial phase of this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:37 am

Oh shit thats a great chorus

hos dipping it low picking up the dough
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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:58 am

dont frolic
we're discussing politics
dont bother
listen to your fathers fathers father
when life was harder

you don't own yourself, you gotta barter
for the right to exist and even so you'll be a martyr
yeah bitch, thats how it is, how it go,
spending money on whatever for the show

hos dipping it low picking up the dough
thrown out the window of the Party limo

Yeah friend-oh, give your heart to the Party
like its Mardi Gras or Ill visit you in Gitmo.
just in case gimme your digits though
You just might escape the narrative like Don DeLillo

Little hillbilly in the building, whats chilling
take a red pill meal and notice it is filling!
Like Anchorman, the tragic death of Baxter
Jack Blacks vengeance over a spilled Burrito

United States of glass cases of emotion,
big pharmacy, big selling potions
supremacy through suppression of natural remedies?
cry me a river of salt, see you at the ocean

 

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PostSubject: Re: The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law   Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:21 pm

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It does appear that way, yes.

But I do maintain that this is all one huge self-testing of western civilization so called. I dare say that all ideas that matter have come out of the west. For good or bad. I mean, I’m sure there are some significant ideas that have come out of places beyond the west, I just don’t know what those are.

Well Japan has some pretty nifty ideas about action and meaning. China isn't completely barren either. But indeed the whole world runs on western ideas. And yes, Marx is from the heart of the West, so you re by definition right here. It is all "us". Which is why Ive extolled some of the virtues of Marxism through the USSRs incorruptible will to go beyond religion, beyond right and wrong also, into "historic necessity"; a very mighty monadic instinct which did shock and awe the entire world, and inspired a great scientific competition.

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And of course the whole one world government NWO thing comes into play too, since mass migration and the resulting 1) social unrest, 2) decline in patriotism and national sovereignty, 3) fracturing of European and American people into for or against on the issue, 4) draining of capital en mass, 5) inevitable blending of all peoples together such that individual ethnicities become almost non-existent, all of that plays right into the hands of those who would like to turn earth into a single global superstate. I am quite sure that the EU is just an initial phase of this.

In their plans, surely. But Communist plans are made to be compromised by nature. Look at all the concessions they've had to make along the way - we are still able to be humans. And in some respects we are supremely powerful. Science isn't affected by Communism, it is only driven ahead and it points to what man is, rather than a strictly mass-leverageable quantity of use-value, a valuer-valued, a thing in a "market of things", where offers and gamble and unexpected outcomes always break the trend when it is most required to be stable for control to be permanent.

Spain has fired its leftist cabinet. Italy is beginning to kick out illegal immigrants and taking care of smugglers. Soros is done in Hungary. Austria has been building a wall. Im thinking this is a far as it goes, the scheme is up. The internet revealed it. Kek is now Lord.

Socialism is no longer the vector that it was a few years ago.
Politics will be acquiring a different meaning for some time to come - re: the title of this thread, I have no doubts about the greater vector. Truth is a one way street.

 

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