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PostSubject: VO Studies: Mental "illness"    Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:22 pm

As Fixed noted elsewhere here, some people cannot handle their humanity very well. This touches on something Ive been wanting to write about for a while now: what is deeply wrong with mental health and mental healthcare. The current paradigm is that a person becomes a victim of a "mental disorder" and thus must do therapy and use prescribed drugs and essentially is forgiven of self-responsibility. Sure, recent therapies make a point of asserting the person's role and responsibility in their "recovery from mental illness" but that is just a smokescreen; that view only exists because the deeper more true view exists that a person with a mental health diagnosis no longer has to be considered a self-responsible person.

Depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive, manic, psychotic, these are all distortions of self-valuing process. The distortion is a compensation for values-in-displacement, as the consequence of some trauma. The trauma can be genetic, environmental, or usually is both: namely, some people have genetic predisposition to certain deformities or inefficiencies of brain structure and chemistry that predispose them to react more deeply to certain traumatic experiences, especially during childhood. Such experiences end up damaging the capacity for valuing. Ontic integrity is compromised in some way.

But the 'secret' is that this is to some degree and in some way always true for everybody. No one had perfect self-valuing without structural and learned deformities, that wouldn't even make sense to be "perfect" like that. Part of self-valuing means to adapt around and posit against imposing limits and errors, to sense pains and respond accordingly; the identifying feature of a so-called mentally ill person isn't that they have such inner limits and pains and distortions, because we all do, but rather is the fact they have become convinced to do very little about it.

Ironically this form of "acceptance" of the mental "illness" is actually a deeper rejection-- a rejection of self. Real acceptance is modeled around integrating otherness an pain within oneself in ways that implicitly challenge and overcome those limits, not reify them to absolute status or as if they were separate from yourself.

Yes, some people have much more significant self-valuing distortions than others. Depression and psychosis for example are no laughing matter, these states very much do exist. Yet they have always existed, and people have always found ways to cope and integrate themselves around these aspects, turning them into something positive or at least largely benign, and refusing to concede the entirety of their being to such pains and challenges. In the past, someone who hears or sees things would be considered a mystic, a shaman, a poet; this "deficit" would be turned into a literal advantage and allow access to new scopes of knowledge and existentia. Obsessive compulsive would be turned into the perfection of a hobby craft or into the genius of scientific or philosophical discovery. Depression would be converted into a "poetic melancholy" to use a phrase Parodites once used, and as a way of experiencing life's richness and meaning in new and more profound ways.

Today none of that is the case, and we are told of our "diseases" to which we must sacrifice our self-responsibility and compromise our valuing in a fake acceptance that masks a deeper rejection of oneself, of these aspects of who we are. I've experienced real depression, suicidality, self-harm, panic attack, paranoid delusions, mania, and obsessive compulsion--- I know what it is like to feel these things. And yes, I overcame them to a great extent; how? Because I treated them as an important and precious part of myself, not as something alien or diseased.

Granted that not all such conditions can be entirely overcome--- but so fucking what? You adapt and move on, you work your hallucinations or delusions into your life experience, you learn to laugh about it and value these interesting and strange states. This is by no means impossible. Sure there are some very fucked up people who just cannot do that given the intensity of their distorted consciousness, the severity of crippled structure, but such people are a very very small minority. I can say in my many years of mental health experience I've never met such a person who could not achieve integration and better living by accepting who and what they are and rolling with that, rather than rejecting it. Self-valuing logic can encompass almost anything, turn almost any detriment into a strength.

 

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PostSubject: Re: VO Studies: Mental "illness"    Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:14 pm

The whole point is to value oneself, with every deficiency and limit, every pain; these are not "diseases" or "illness", and labeling them as such prevents full self-valuing.

 

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PostSubject: Re: VO Studies: Mental "illness"    Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:44 pm

Exactly right, I think.
All such disorders are to be met as challenges. That is what makes for human experience.

Also, Ive seen the people who were involved in psychiatric treatments generally headed to the same thing: an early death and a sad quick funeral.


 

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PostSubject: Re: VO Studies: Mental "illness"    Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:54 pm

Yes that's all too common.

We need to value-analyze each individual mental distortion/limit to really understand what it is and how to deal with it.

 

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PostSubject: Re: VO Studies: Mental "illness"    Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:43 pm

Cant argue with that.

Lets do it.

Ill start with a general analysis of psychosis.

A psychotic episode is the experience of losing the superstition of the isolated self. It is the realization that all ones thoughts are simply happening, and that one is simply happening in the world, and the consequent loss of a sense of control over ones identity, especially inwardly. One begins to search for metaphysical objectivity behind phenomena, but looks for it away from where it is, in the thing that looks. And so, one actually loses that inner object, that self-valuing, to the entropy of difference itself.

The remedy is to accept that indeed there is no self, and to find out that ones desperate seeking for stable meaning is itself a sufficient basis for permanent meaning. It is the birth of Strength, the Lion stage. We could see psychosis as a result of the Camel stage, which is a high attainment of itself, most people are too weak to take on actual burdens  - a Camel is the embryonic stage of the Child.

The Camel breaks down into psychosis, if he doesnt manage to turn his object-value, his load, the higher thing for which he crosses the desert, into the treasure of his own heart. If it remains an insistence on objective worth outside of himself, the fiery force that can turn the camels heart into a lions heart instead begins to burn holes in that heart.

The further down a psychosis one is, and the more one has relied on medicine, the less remains of the hearts potential to self-value with structural integrity. It is a sliding scale, and a psychosis nipped in the bud is a Lion attained. One can not go back from the psychosis into the camel.

So what would help here is a sub-society where psychotic people are being exposed to high philosophy and high discipline of all cultures, so that they can find their discipline.

It is crucial to take note of the notion that disciplines of arts, science, war, or any particular sort are all in the best case means to discipline-as-such. A discipline is a means to discipline oneself. One normally chooses that which one is talented at, because this also yields merit - but the primary function is discipline itself. Building selfvaluing by honing the will.

Will acquires skill to know power. Power is knowing. Knowing is power. Self-knowing. This is what the medic hands to the fallen, torn ones: all the most difficult paths mankind has devised. And from all these paths, the conception of a path of ones own can take hold in the patient, who then becomes a lions cub, i.e. an initiate of philosophy, on to become an adept, a philosopher - and in the occult ranking system, and occultists are all familiar with the abyss between Camel and Lion, the highest rank is master of the temple. It is this highest rank that is able to prescribe ropes and bridges, medicines and holy fires to escape the abyss.

A song. We need a sirens song to hover above the abyss.

 

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PostSubject: Re: VO Studies: Mental "illness"    Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:37 pm


 

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