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PostSubject: This is it: Steel.    Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:53 pm

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The US has set the stage for a global showdown over steel, launching a national security investigation that could lead to sweeping tariffs on steel imports in what would be the first significant act of economic protectionism by President Donald Trump.

The decision to use a 1962 law allowing the US government to limit imports that threaten its security readiness is intended to deliver on Mr Trump’s campaign promises to bolster heavy industry and “put new American steel into the spine of this country”, officials said on Thursday.

But it risks setting off trade tensions with China just days after Mr Trump avoided another conflict by backing down on a promise to label Beijing a currency manipulator, citing in part its help in dealing with North Korea.

Mr Trump called the move a “historic day for American steel” but insisted it “has nothing to do with China”.

“Steel is critical to both our economy and our military. This is not an area where we can afford to become dependent on foreign countries,” he added.

The new push on steel came as Christine Lagarde, the head of the International Monetary Fund, repeated a warning that protectionism represented a serious threat to global growth.

But Ms Lagarde, who has been locked in a rhetorical battle over protectionism with Mr Trump’s commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, sought to reach out to the White House by acknowledging a need for changes in global trade.

Echoing some of Mr Trump’s criticism of the multilateral system, the former French finance minister said there were increasing signs countries were violating global trading rules. She also concurred with the Trump administration’s recent criticism of Germany, saying that addressing Berlin’s trade surplus was “highly desirable”.

Mr Trump’s move on steel drew praise from both US industry members and labour unions. “This executive order will give us the tools we need to lure our companies back and [put] our people back to work,” said Leo Gerard, head of the United Steelworkers union.

Mr Ross said the administration was concerned that rising steel imports were threatening US industry and its ability to respond quickly to national security needs. The issue was particularly relevant now because of Mr Trump’s plans to increase spending on defence programmes such as new warships that rely heavily on steel, he added.

The US has in recent years launched 152 steel anti-dumping cases, with another 25 pending, but Mr Ross said the trade dispute system was “porous” because it allowed only narrowly focused complaints against specific countries.

“We’re groping here to see whether the facts warrant a more comprehensive solution that would deal with a very wide range of steel products from a very wide range of countries,” he said.

Any such action by the US would be likely to hurt steel producers in Europe and Asia and trigger reprisals.

The US steel industry has blamed Chinese overcapacity for driving down global prices and causing it to close mills and lay off workers. The industry is now operating at only 71 per cent of its capacity, with imports accounting for more than a quarter of the domestic steel market, Mr Ross said.

While Mr Trump has promised a hardline trade policy since taking office in January, his biggest action to date has been to pull the US out of a vast but never finalised 12-country Pacific trade deal.

Most other moves have been largely rhetorical. Mr Trump launched studies of US trade deficits and Buy American laws, and while he has vowed to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, thus far discussions with Canada and Mexico have been tentative.

In a trip through Asia this week, Mike Pence, the vice-president, warned South Korea that the US wants to renegotiate trade deals that it feels have only added to the US trade deficit, and Mr Trump has held early talks with China over a trade deal.

While those initiatives remain in the pipeline, there have been few of the concrete policies advocated in Mr Trump’s campaign that were central to his economic nationalist message and helped him win industrial states such as Ohio and Michigan.

The slow start on trade has come in part because Congress has yet to confirm his pick for US trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, which has frustrated an administration desperate to notch up accomplishments in its first 100 days.

Mr Trump said the steel study’s recommendations could come within a month. Mr Ross made clear he believed the investigation would lead to tariff actions and what would mark the first concrete protectionist moves by an administration that until now has been more focused on commissioning reports.

“Only the president’s actions based on those reports can show us his true colours on trade,” said Scott Lincicome, a White & Case trade lawyer also affiliated with the libertarian Cato Institute.

Chad Bown, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and a former economic adviser to President Barack Obama, said citing “national security” on steel amounted to invoking a “nuclear option” in trade.

“This is one more piece of evidence in the worrisome trend that Trump seems to be turning over every rock and investigating each and every available tool available under US law to stop trade,” Mr Bown said.

 

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PostSubject: Re: This is it: Steel.    Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:59 pm

Well, if the USA does not return to being a significant manufacturing nation it will very quickly go the way of Rome.

Two years ago I found out that the USA does not even manufacture its flu vaccines. They come from Switzerland mostly.

Steel is an important product. We should have at least the capability of some production in the event of trade agreement failures.

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PostSubject: Re: This is it: Steel.    Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:07 am

I agree. Locating production of necessities as close to ourselves as possible is a good way to make sure that our national/cultural self-valuing remains potent and ontologically consistent. And 'paradoxically' (not really, but it will seem that way to many people) this also increases our ability to trade with others for things that we do not produce ourselves.

When you make your own values, you then have more values to trade with others for new values that you did not make.

 

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PostSubject: Re: This is it: Steel.    Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:46 pm

Thrasymachus wrote:
I agree. Locating production of necessities as close to ourselves as possible is a good way to make sure that our national/cultural self-valuing remains potent and ontologically consistent. And 'paradoxically' (not really, but it will seem that way to many people) this also increases our ability to trade with others for things that we do not produce ourselves.

When you make your own values, you then have more values to trade with others for new values that you did not make.

Agree. Right now it seems that the only value in the USA is free stuff from the government. Someone will be paying for all this free stuff one day.

It will be a sad day if we ever reach the point such that the government has to borrow money just to pay the interest on the money it has borrowed in the past.

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PostSubject: Re: This is it: Steel.    Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:59 pm

Sisyphus wrote:
Thrasymachus wrote:
I agree. Locating production of necessities as close to ourselves as possible is a good way to make sure that our national/cultural self-valuing remains potent and ontologically consistent. And 'paradoxically' (not really, but it will seem that way to many people) this also increases our ability to trade with others for things that we do not produce ourselves.

When you make your own values, you then have more values to trade with others for new values that you did not make.

Agree.  Right now it seems that the only value in the USA is free stuff from the government.  Someone will be paying for all this free stuff one day.

It will be a sad day if we ever reach the point such that the government has to borrow money just to pay the interest on the money it has borrowed in the past.


It's doing that already.

 

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PostSubject: Re: This is it: Steel.    Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:20 am

Thrasymachus wrote:
Sisyphus wrote:
Thrasymachus wrote:
I agree. Locating production of necessities as close to ourselves as possible is a good way to make sure that our national/cultural self-valuing remains potent and ontologically consistent. And 'paradoxically' (not really, but it will seem that way to many people) this also increases our ability to trade with others for things that we do not produce ourselves.

When you make your own values, you then have more values to trade with others for new values that you did not make.

Agree.  Right now it seems that the only value in the USA is free stuff from the government.  Someone will be paying for all this free stuff one day.

It will be a sad day if we ever reach the point such that the government has to borrow money just to pay the interest on the money it has borrowed in the past.


It's doing that already.

You really didn't need to tell me that. Hehehe.

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