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PostSubject: The Healthcare bill   The Healthcare bill Icon_minitimeThu May 04, 2017 8:01 pm

What of it?
How does it compare to Obamacare?
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PostSubject: Re: The Healthcare bill   The Healthcare bill Icon_minitimeThu May 04, 2017 10:01 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:
What of it?
How does it compare to Obamacare?

Based on what I have heard so far, it keeps spending very high by ensuring pots of government money for "pre-existing conditions" subsidies and free care for poor people, but automatically shifts extra costs onto old people with somewhat less costs for younger people (generation warfare); keeps many if not most of the regulations from Obozocare; still does not allow selling of insurance across state lines (which would be important for free market competition to drive down prices); gets rid of the individual mandate but adds that if you have any lapse in coverage between changing plans they you get hit with huge additional penalties and fees, so basically still has some form of the individual mandate.

Bottom line is that most Republicans are idiots. At least the Left is consistent in its ideological insanity: the Left simply thinks it can spend and tax its way into prosperity and doesn't give a shit about rational values like freedom, individual responsibility or having a balanced budget. The Republicans on the other hand, including now apparently Trump too, pretend to care about those values while basically doing the exact opposite, and then they try to force each 'side' of the issue into a single talking, point, such as "We will greatly reduce the cost of health care and insurance premiums, while also keeping guaranteed coverage for pre-existing conditions and making sure everyone has health insurance". Yeah, no. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

If you already capitulate to the principle that the state should guarantee health care for everyone, in some way or another, or that we must cry at the fact that poor people can't purchase health care services they want or need (I am one of those in this boat, despite that I actually have (insanely expensive) health insurance), then you no longer have any principles left to stand on when it comes to this issue. You can't make an affordable, efficient, free market and rational health care system while also maintaining that everyone should be covered for their health care costs regardless of their ability to pay or the poor state of their health. It is a stupid contradiction that Republicans love to push, either because they think we are all stupid or because they themselves are stupid enough to actually believe it.

In case you can't tell, this whole issue really fucking pisses me off. In all likelihood I will never be able to forgive Trump for not immediately passing a one-line bill "The Affordable Care Act is repealed, in every line, section, and statute, effective immediately".
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PostSubject: Re: The Healthcare bill   The Healthcare bill Icon_minitimeFri May 05, 2017 6:26 am

Thrasymachus wrote:


In case you can't tell, this whole issue really fucking pisses me off.

Yes, I could tell. Understandable, I think.

VA attempts to operate the way the market industry does and it is in miserable condition.

I miss my old active military medical care.
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