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Subject: This is why modern math is retarded Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:47 pm

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning

Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:58 pm

Yes, 'math' as a means to unlearn logic. Obviously none of that is really mathematics, it is simply word-play, where the word 'infinite' is radically misunderstood to begin with, as 'a size' .(?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????)

___________ " The strong do what they can do and the weak accept what they have to accept. " - Thucydides

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Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:24 pm

I had someone tell me about this, claiming "math proves" that you can take a 3D object and cut it apart then put it back together making two objects of the same volume as the original... I couldn't believe someone can be that idiotic. Even the Cantor "proof" is just idiotic, that there are supposed to be more numbers between 0 and 1 than there are integers. Give me a fucking break. This sort of "math" is just a litmus test of non-thinking.

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning

Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:00 pm

Yes, theres supposedly different orders of infinity, but all they are referring to is different ways of using math to arrive at the conclusion that you can keep counting, because it is abstract and has no weight. There is no actual, measurable infinity, as a measure is a limit. But surprisingly, this is too philosophical for mathematicians.

The order of real numbers offers a lot of numerical ways into infinity, just as it offers a lot of numerical ways in general. That is all. They dont stop to think that real numbers are formulated and arrived at by the same decimal system that produces the sequence of integers.

___________ " The strong do what they can do and the weak accept what they have to accept. " - Thucydides

Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:46 pm

On a science documentary one of the physicists said that whenever their solution included infinity it means they made a big mistake somewhere.

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Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:02 pm

Sisyphus wrote:

On a science documentary one of the physicists said that whenever their solution included infinity it means they made a big mistake somewhere.

Haha, yeah.

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning

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Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:16 am

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning

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Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:17 am

I am beginning to wonder if the field of mathematics is little more than a lack of philosophy, a lack made functional by the fact that mathematics itself is already simply a language based on logic and reality, so that no matter how much mathematicians butcher it it still keeps on working.

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning

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Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:21 am

"A set S is finite iff there is a bijection between S and {1,2,...,n} for some positive integer n, and infinite otherwise. (I.e., if it makes sense to count its elements.)"

Lol, no, a set is finite if it has a limited number of items in it. A set with 5 or 500 or 5000000 items in it is a finite set, that is what "finite" means. To have a definite, limited quantity.

Not sure why this is so hard for these "mathemagicians" to understand.

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning

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Subject: Re: This is why modern math is retarded Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:22 am

Apparently studying even basic logic isn't a requirement for being a mathematician.

___________ “Be clever, Ariadne! ... You have little ears; you have my ears: Put a clever word in them! — Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ... I am your labyrinth ...”. -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning