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PostSubject: Infatuation    Infatuation  Icon_minitimeFri Aug 18, 2017 5:40 am

Desire is a small experience magnified. This serves many purposes. One is denial. Another is edification. Still another is catharsis.

Desire may transform into infatuation, and then each purpose is magnified. We are always "beyond good and evil" in our souls. If all magnified purposes become wrapped up in each other then we call the resulting experience by the name of love.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Infatuation    Infatuation  Icon_minitimeFri Aug 18, 2017 6:00 am

I agree that infatuation is desire magnified.

Infatuation is what we are seeing in the USA right now.

I wouldn't associate infatuation with being "beyond good and evil" though. This is because these magnified desires will cause us to lose connection with the rest of reality. And, of course, Taoism teaches that we should reduce our desire, not magnify them.

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PostSubject: Re: Infatuation    Infatuation  Icon_minitimeFri Aug 18, 2017 6:36 am

Reducing desires is stoicism, and as Parodites has said stoicism is only a necessary chains that a heart imposes upon itself where such a heart is too overfull of passion relative to its own ability to actually follow and endure that passion. [paraphrase]

Stoicism is as close to truth as is hedonism.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Infatuation    Infatuation  Icon_minitimeFri Aug 18, 2017 7:02 pm

Well, for sure, the fewer desires we have the less we will have a troubled mind. Especially if our desires are not attainable within the near future.
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PostSubject: Re: Infatuation    Infatuation  Icon_minitimeFri Aug 18, 2017 7:18 pm

Sisyphus wrote:
Well, for sure, the fewer desires we have the less we will have a troubled mind.  Especially if our desires are not attainable within the near future.


Because the human heart is too weak to desire more than a single thing truly and deeply at
a given moment, the easiest way of assuaging the pain of desire is by continuously
replacing one desire with another.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Infatuation    Infatuation  Icon_minitimeSat Aug 19, 2017 5:58 am

Parodites wrote:
Sisyphus wrote:
Well, for sure, the fewer desires we have the less we will have a troubled mind.  Especially if our desires are not attainable within the near future.


Because the human heart is too weak to desire more than a single thing truly and deeply at
a given moment, the easiest way of assuaging the pain of desire is by continuously
replacing one desire with another.

I can't disagree with that.

Two concepts you added to the discussion: the human heart, and single-mindedness

I view the human heart as our true emotions/feelings.

And we are seeing, in America, a perfect example of single-mindedness in many areas of society today. (One goal regardless of consequences.)

That throws the concept of multi-tasking out the window.

So yes, I agree with you. Desire after desire, failure after failure, a life without fulfillment. The Great American Dream!
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