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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 7:34 pm

Yeah I have been trying to listen more and get back into it. I find myself often busy and distracted with writing, reading, drinking, chess, drawing, and working, however. But yes, the music will come. Keep sending me any new tracks you make, the third album is still needing at least 7-8 more tracks. Probably more like 10-12 more, unless we want to keep it shorter and more "concept"-like as an album.

Which actually might be nice, following the first two which are truly heavy hitters.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:08 pm

Ill need to upload Wolf Child too.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:27 pm

But yes, I need to make a lot more. I need a studio. So far all this has been made with very limited means.
Finding a path with music is part of this giving a shit that matters. Resistance is maximal. To anything Ive ever done.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:30 pm

There is nothing harder or heavier than causing the world into being by giving a shit.
The advantage I gained in this age old struggle of nobility, struggle for the power to give grace, curve, cycle, earth, is that I understand that there literal does not exist anything else.
This gives to show the agony of the sub-existents and this is plenty of explanation for their brutish insanity, which is called "common sense".
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:31 pm

I fucking just don't think you've thought through what war entails.

If you come, as I said, to Venezuela and spend an hour in a barrio, you will enter hell. Yet that hell will be far less harmful to your psyche than if a war breaks out in the first world, even if you had nothing to do with it

Fuck, the way I see it, that's reasons #1 to be for Trump. Whatever possibility there was of that war, he defused it.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:42 pm

I don't think I will find much but obedience, admiration, fear and hatred in the barrio, much like in any peoples club. I will have power wherever I stand among people, but there is rarely something of use in them.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:44 pm

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I fucking just don't think you've thought through what war entails.

If you come, as I said, to Venezuela and spend an hour in a barrio, you will enter hell. Yet that hell will be far less harmful to your psyche than if a war breaks out in the first world, even if you had nothing to do with it

Fuck, the way I see it, that's reasons #1 to be for Trump. Whatever possibility there was of that war, he defused it.

Yeah I never said and never will say that I want to be involved in a war. Obviously I would refuse to be drafted, as I am no monkey in a suit to die on some foreign soil shooting at someone I don’t even know. I’m not glamorizing war, dude. I’m saying war is a fucking necessity not just ontologically but more importantly psychologically, socially, culturally... because without it you have these long protracted periods of “peace” where everything and everyone becomes flaccid and passive and goo-like, and petty values end up taking easier hold... CNN, Netflix and chill. Fakebook. Etc.

War is simply “the need to need to give a shit”, pushed to as many people as possible. I literally see war in a philosophical sense as nothing except this.

For me and you, we already give a shit, so we don’t need war to wake us up from goo-sleep. But most people aren’t like us.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:49 pm

War can only be fought over a telos.
War for its own sake is impossible.
All wars have at least 2 aims, of course.
aims set against each other.
Not eye to eye, not face to face, just against each other.

War is wearing masks and taking it off at crucial moments.
I have been living in a strange invisible war, European nihilism, bodies falling from the skies,
Angels end their angst on the pavement
I don't like it, way too messy of a statement

But the real war is the one I started in 2011.
Once you set the right plan, reality will push you ahead of it.


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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:52 pm

You mean by starting BTL in 2011, or something else?
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 8:57 pm

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You mean by starting BTL in 2011, or something else?

Yes, well right before that it was. Before I had talked to you I had talked to without-music, I did that astrology test where he gives me three dates and I pick the one that is his, and we talked about Nietzsche and philosophy and I realized that it is possible to talk to people about goals at that point. I had just had the valuing logic which explained science as a selective valuing to me, and I realize there was not only ground to start something real but also apparently, good. Something trustworthy was in the air. That is when I read your Kant post. It is certainly the case that the war became real when you got involved.

Of course James shows also how dangerous of a war this has been so far. I came from a campfire of jew-haters, that was a reminiscent of my grandpas travails too I guess, to hear what it is these bastards say. I got involved in a war against myself with weapons.

War is slow. Only patience will win a war.
And patience not in fortified positions but in investments.

War is waged on the ground as that is where the bag with the gold travels.
It is won in heaven. Peace is in winning your crucial battle by a coolly figured tactic.



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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 9:02 pm

I don’t remember that post.. maybe you can find it, I’m curious.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 9:07 pm

This must be it.
http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176325&p=2243077
[quote][quote="aletheia"]In his recent article "Infinite Restlessness" Mark Taylor writes, speaking in reference to Kant's theory of aesthetics,

We struck conversation about this principle and there was a pace of thinking that happens in science sometimes but rarely in philosophy. Vast masses were suddenly moving, as if life was being born after dead winter. BTL came as one of several possible consequences we had in mind for an academy of sorts, a tree of knowledge.



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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 9:10 pm

That’s great, thanks for finding it. I’ll have to see if I even remember this.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 9:12 pm

Regarding war, — this insight hit me lately, as I was really deep in thought. Thoughts I was “stealing” from the future by willing them into my own depths and not into writing. Basically I saw the absence of war and what that means, has meant, and then I saw war through Heraclitean, Nietzschean eyes. In a pure naturalpsychologicalsocial sense. This isn’t even about Ontology. Not yet.
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So many people just operate with no reason to give a fuck, not really. War is the needing to give a fuck of last resort.
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One should never just go to war for the fuck of it. I have plenty of cause to war where I live. But I don't want to cause havoc and no resolution in favour of the most gracious valuing, which is the philosophers law. I wish to end a continents strifes of 2000 years. In the end Rome will be made to serve its former slave. Thats not not Jesus, but Greece and what is now west-Turkey. But also the beast from the East, because Moscow and Petersburg are European capitals cities, which is why all of the USSR played the European Championships. We beat them in the finals.
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This is what it felt like to win the Cold War, the Final Peace. The wall fell the next year.
It did last some eight years, Ill have to give it something. It was nice to have peace. But in 1998 shit stirred up. Maybe even '97.
Darkness like a cold wind inside your bones.
And suddenly there is death.
And then there is alienation, and then there is more death and then there is abandonment, and learning, and a path. And then arms and specialist methods and kills and room for space in the life and the necessity of a code. And for some there is then philosophy. For others there this war by other means, but these will serve philosophers, somewhere, somehow.

I don't really think I haunt though war through. It was why I went on a secretive film operation with Hezbollah and inside an old Israeli prison, and all this stuff after 911, to find out the things that I had arrived at by thinking it through as far as I could without empirical evidence.

Look, here is my understanding of war awakening: I arrive at the hilltop, the dining room, put down my backpack and a bomb goes off nearby, the ground shakes. I duck, a little girl giggles at means points. A new volunteer. Three years later I am on the other side, where the bombs fell, being guided along the graves of the kids who blew themselves up - perhaps in the very blast I heard. To liberate that prison, where the Hezbollah showed me their thinking.

So there isn't really anything to think through about war except the code you want to wage it by when it comes to you. Unless you're an American or Russian or Israeli or Korean or some shit you don't "go to war for yer country", you're in a pact. You go to war with a pact of bureaucrats, cigar smoking money launderers.


War of the masses, the outcome, disastrous
Many of the victims' families save they ashes
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 9:40 pm

I wasn't put on this Earth to start a war of nations or of uprising. I am here to propose ways in which to win the war that is inevitably going to be won now, namely the overcoming of European nihilism by an America-infused Nietzschean philosophy. Through the US in this the way back to Rome and Greece is two fold, one through power and one through simple old fashioned philological nerdry, the real stem of the Nietzsche tree where I see the apple fall.
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War is very cold.
It keeps you close to yourself.
No one makes sense, thus no one can be trusted in war.
Except if you you are the ones who are winning it through this very thing that is missing in the others... trust.
But trust is never vain, or it is simple admiration.

Trust is in the sense that the others purposes are sound... it is of course intuitive. But in war if it occurs you can be assured terrain can be won. It is rare, more precious than wish-fulfillment or treasure.
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Life is indeed a stage, like wood is a stage to fire.
Dance, trust in the consistency of the wood is the fires gladness.
Woman and man together, their very aim is to not care for truth.
Therewith is a bond in marriage a breach in law and sanction too.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 9:51 pm

War is caused by plan-making.
this is sometimes mere scheming and sometimes a noble kind of architecture with uncertainty.




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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 10:01 pm

There aren't that many purposes to go to war over.
Food is not a reason to go to war, you need food to wage war. It is a prerequisite, not a goal.
If you have oil you can go to war to sell that oil, because there will be a lot of man made movement of man made masses.
War is thus luxury.
This is why it is so perverse, and why people go so deep into it. Defending their precious perniciousnesses, which is what life is all about
As soon as you go to war, you are entrenched in the most sublimely arbitrary value-differences. It is for this very sake that war is waged, to test if man still exists. -
Wars have ruled my life.
Dead wars, slumbering wars, attrition wars, weird wars, war is always weird.
But in the strangeness there is a pattern.
This is rune, and this is what the final answer to all war-calls shall me. We will win, because our principles are birds footsteps in snow, and of such making.
What will be won is that for which everyone fought becoming available because it is met on favourable terms.
What is war otherwise but compensation to the Earth? And thats not enough. We are humans, not merely Earthlings - we are destined to become truthful and wise only in extreme exertions of the creating intellect. We can only be tamed by the exert of our strength into the unknown itself. This in the waviest sense is science, it the sense of the strong heart.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 10:24 pm

A war in South America now would he equally bloody and pointless as a German-French war and the results would be equally stale.
What is possible now is far more interesting.

War is fought for the spoils.
peace is attained and upheld by means of the spoils.

The secret to politics is to see which wars rage in which terms. "Mining".
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World War I is heating up again, long after WWII ended in 1989, as a result of the war on terror ending and meeting nations in the ME in terms of their people rather than a set of colonial abstractions.

And yes, clearly the first great blessing of Trumps victory was that he averted sure annihilation. As I had been saying for years, war with the Russians grew closer and closer. My ancestors died in such a war. My admiration for Putin has been because of his ability to build peace through power and power through peace, by winning battle after battle in a behaviour that is more simply sanity than it is war, even though it follows the same strict discipline. That is ultimately what war is, the father of all things.

Socialism is the attempt to deny hunter-survivor instinct so as to prevent the natural tendency to fight for things. It inevitably leads to complete arrest of all activity. The richer a nation is the better it can afford a time of Socialism. Plunder with no spoils.

The way to win your country would be to symbolize spoils.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 11:16 pm

When enough people can no longer give a fuck in terms of sublimating valuing energetics into and as culture and economy, then war occurs, because that is what happens when enough “giving a fuck” is not happening on the social scale. War is then the only means by which to curb the downward trajectory of social decay value-dissolution.

I’m not saying I want war, or that I like war. Obviously I do not want or like it. I am just saying war is what happens when certain conditions obtain. Parodites mentioned this in relation to the exporting of surplus capital between nations, and when this sort of trade becomes impossible then war occurs, because the surplus cannot be exported any longer. I see the very same thing at work on the psychological and cultural levels within societies.

Similarly you can see the bullshit of Marxist critiques and “theory” that are either absolutely anti-war or are selectively in favor of wars only when those wars actually serve the interests of banality and goo-ification, namely they invert what war really means and try to turn it into the interests of securing rather than remedying values-dissolutions; this is why we find ourselves nearly in a state of perpetual warfare, because the leftist Marxist view has caused the snake to bite its own tail and form a circle that has no exits. They (Oblonko et al) think war can be used to secure lasting goo. When in fact war is just the final remedy for goo.

Same logic occurs in feminism breaking down male psychologies into either absolute submission or absolute “toxic masculinity” categories. By doing this the feminists actually open up men to objectifying women on an infinitely higher scale, because all that “toxic” masculinity (and femininity ie normal earthy human relationships and even animosity is in part what helps to hold back total objectifying.
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PostSubject: Re: Will to Power   Will to Power - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jan 06, 2018 11:21 pm

And why then is it even necessary that a society needs to goad and whip and torment itself through war back into giving a fuck? Because we need to sustain a certain level of giving a fuck, of real investment and passion at the total level of society, because that is how we grasp our own karmic aeon and transform it into the next cycle, as Parodites was saying. It is the basic condition for everything in the human world. It is self-valuing on the abstract, social and species wide level.
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