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PostSubject: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed May 23, 2018 6:58 am

I no longer believe in passive valuing. All valuing is properly active, an activity.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed May 23, 2018 8:01 am

Women seem to prefer passive valuing. They apparently need immediate danger or some height of maternal or romantic affection to actively value. I am not sure the reasons for this; undoubtedly such reasons exist, but I don’t feel like exploring them at the moment. I apparently do not want to actively value these reasons enough to comprehend them.

What N called weakness or slave morality is a huge attempt to remake life in the image of passive valuing.

So what is passive valuing? I believe there are two types. The first is truly passive, not even “reactive” so much as apathetic, lethargic, of entropy. Even it’s reactivity is fraudulent. The second type is “passive” due to a somewhat frozen undercurrent of active dynamic values-in-relation producing in that frozen quality a ground of inactivity at the surface.

Some passivity hides activity in massive states of balanced tension. Other passivity hides... nothing at all, or rather hides a will to nothing. An attempt to value being-not-here.

 

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Put a clever word in them! —
Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ...
I am your labyrinth ...”.  -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning
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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed May 23, 2018 10:21 am

Yes,I believe natural women tend to value the active valuing of men - which as you say is 100% active.
A violent gesture to take or grab or destroy or kill something, or form or shape to change it, all that is valuing, to exist, to handle existence, all that is active.

A woman does these things as well of course but nature working through genders has it layered, so for complex dynamics to be possible; what is a fact beyond doubt is that women can't help valuing a man who is aggressive in his valuing and not entirely incompetent in appropriating, but he doesn't eve have to be very successful. It is the gesture factive valuing that a woman likes, that she can't resist.

I talking in generalities, of course, not in universals.

As far as the passive valuing goes - I woud say this is the passive valuing of passive valuing, thisrelates to what I posed on ILP;

Fixed Cross wrote:
I can't make statements as to whether the dark feminine is a shared archetype of the psyche of all women. For all I know it is like a talent, a specific quality, a gift of sorts, or depending on where you stand, a curse. What is certain however, is that she is mean. Wherever this dark feminine holds sway, the woman under her influence will act at the behest of death, ruin and humiliation. It is this dark feminine that brings a girl to seek out criminals, pornography, and in general that finds the path of the least resistance to be the agency of down-bringing. It is no consequence who or what is brought down; be it the woman herself, or a man she interacts with, or just as easily a whole society.

Zarathustra said to bring he whip. For a specific type of woman though, not for woman in general, not at all. There is also that bright feminine form which allows the dark to hide in the suggestion of beauty.  It is for her benefit that I seek to flesh out a species beyond this type of humanity, by discerning and selecting, ordering and ranking of qualities in the feminine psyche.

Evil is fun, meaning that punishment is part of the fun. A creature of excess, fed by too much and too little. A necessary demon for the thriving of our sort but a downfall for any race or type or individual that reveres her.



Evil is born below her, when a man sinks to revere the dark feminine. He becomes less than a monkey and more - not a man, just a play-thing involved in the game without consequences. This is her realm; logic is absent in her repertoire, as from A must follow A- and B+ and B and down the slope, except n the instances when she is overtaken and down-ranked herself; where the spectacle begin the excess of sacrifice, religion as slavery.


Fixed Cross wrote:
SATAN
is the civilization of the dark feminine,
where consequences happen even if there aren't any causes.

Because life is a sliding scale, if it comes into its grasp, you could say it is the continuation of gravity by other means.
In "Aion" Jung identifies the inevitable urges of Mankind as the true God.

If reason is allowed by the light of the Sun and the consistency of our path around her, then the other thing is allowed by the neglect of the original source, the Sun. The Sun is order, the Earth to herself is a chaos of infinite dimensions, but that is a tautology.

And yet even this passive valuing is an activity. It is right that there is no such thing as true passivity, except "gladly perishing".

 

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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed May 23, 2018 9:11 pm

In order for women to have the absolute power over men that they do have, they had to give up a good degree of their self-knowledge. It really is that simple. They often do not know what they want, but they always know that they do want.. something.

That is the price of this power they have. I hope it was worth it for them.

 

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Put a clever word in them! —
Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ...
I am your labyrinth ...”.  -N

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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 06, 2018 9:16 am

The only thing worse than Christians are liberals-leftists. Liberals-leftists are nothing but Christians without the conviction, honesty and intelligence to admit they are Christian.

 

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Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ...
I am your labyrinth ...”.  -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning
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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 06, 2018 11:45 am

Well, to be clear, I have nothing against Christians, or left-liberals generally speaking. I only hold things against individuals, regardless of their ideological preferences.

 

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Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ...
I am your labyrinth ...”.  -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning
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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 06, 2018 11:45 am

I just happen to see what these ideologies are, and what they do to people.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Valuing is active, not passive    Valuing is active, not passive  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 06, 2018 12:00 pm

Krosstjuns.



In Bavaria now every official building has to have a cross.
Radical Krosstjuns on the horizon man. Maybe we'll have new crusades.



 

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