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The caption isn't ideal but the gif itself shows the cat communicating to the camera that he saw something incredibly important to him which in no way reflects his survival or procreation.



whereas animal contemplating what nature gives, consciousness is not, for us, as recognizable.

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Do objects determine consciousness? Yes we knew this, but that it also applies to animals is an interesting thought.

It is true that apes given pencils can learn to draw a portrait. And that crows can solve rather complex physical puzzles made out of objects.

Perhaps objects aren't as hard to understand as we humans presume, but still their creation requires a knowledge of objects which far exceeds that of any other animal.

Animals are probably very responsive in their type and quality of consciousness to the activities of structures of objects that we put before their eyes.

 

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That cat simply knows that it needs to talk to the camera because this the case.

cats learn this without any teleological explanation, they just realize from our behaviour and our energies being in service to the shiny object that this object is worthy of their pride before it.

Which is pretty much as meaningful as knowing what the camera is actually doing. And thence I don't really see it as such a big step for them to actually realize that a camera has the power to capture their appearance. Being valued is as instinctive as valuing.

 

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