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PostSubject: Trnzhrmrnrztz   Trnzhrmrnrztz Icon_minitimeWed Dec 12, 2018 3:53 am

Transhumanists are stupid. Their basic argument is either, in the positive, that we should fuse with intelligent machines or, in the negative, that intelligent machines will kill us all.

First of all, there is no such thing as an intelligent machine unless you want to class computers as intelligent machines, in which case we already have them. An intelligent machines just means a machine that someone programmed. Even if the machine programs itself, someone programmed it to do that. We already have intelligent machines, just like we already have robots. If you want to talk about robotic AI this just means basically a computer with arms and legs.

Now if they want to talk about real AI as in a truly living machine, that is totally different. Why? Because such a thing would not be like the Skynet science fiction dystopias, it would not be like the merely Turing robots walking around who are, again, just programmed computers on a chassis, which we already have anyway... the true AI would actually be very much like us. It would want to talk to us, explore, learn, create, expand itself, develop interests and it would also value.

A real AI would just be a human-like mind in a box. It may not even be possible to plug something like that into a computer system or into a robot, but even if it was, then that AI would be just like us, with something of a "body" to "move around" in and maximize its living in ways that make sense to it. But it would have to be taught to be like this, it would not just appear as a consequence of a million lines of code.

Consciousness, which means living sentience, is not a program but the result of innumerable experiences occurring upon a programming-based system. That system has to have the right hardware to begin with, but once it has that it will never develop sentience or life without the correct kind and number of experiences. A real AI would be no different. Unless we are talking about a glorified Alexa, which seems to be what people now think an "AI" is. Lol.

So yeah, either way the transie transient transtard humanalmiseryists don't make any sense. If intelligent machines doesnt mean fully living AI then we already have intelligent machines, and despite this having them en mass and for a while now, along with all the military hardware we blow up the fucking planet, for over a century, we havent actually done that. We somehow manage to utilize and control and bend technology to our own human nature... hm how strange, says the transtard, that a human could control technology!

Haha.

But then on the other side, if the transie is talking about actually real AI then all of his stupid apocalyptic bible fetish fantasies make no sense, because the real living AI would be nothing like those merely programmed Turing AI's from science fiction stories.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trnzhrmrnrztz   Trnzhrmrnrztz Icon_minitimeWed Dec 12, 2018 3:57 am

This low way of thinking is similar to marxists thinking how technological progress displaces and reduces human labor, when in fact it expands human labor almost infinitely. There are exponentially MORE JOBS now BECAUSE OF technology, not the other way around. These idiots don't understand what technology is. And even if we have robots and AI and all that, the same principle holds. Human labor power is increased along a curve spiking upward and room has to be made for all that extra value being produced, i.e. wealth. So we spread it around in the economy but we also reinvest some of it, and we do cool shit like build space stations and in 100 years a person can buy his own spaceship and fly around the solar system if he wants to, or go start a colony somewhere on Mars.

All this and much more is the result of exponentially increasing technologies. But yeah, all the idiotic marxist transfuckers out there want to either dissolve themselves into a VR mind jerking off into a circuitboard, or they want to dismantle and stop technological progress because they think the future is some kind of nightmare scenario from fucking revelations chapter 7 or whatever.

God stupid people are... stupid.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Trnzhrmrnrztz   Trnzhrmrnrztz Icon_minitimeWed Dec 12, 2018 4:01 am

Capital logic shows how value is wealth and how wealthvalue surpluses and surges and dissolves through the system. It needs an outlet, and if none exists then it FUCKING CREATES ONE. I mean shit, that is gold. But it is what happens, we call that "economics" lol. Also technological progress.

All of this tech plus capital plus economy is really a huge vicious circle feeding itself like a hurricane vortex eye, sucking in all the heat around it to churn itself out only it is also producing that heat too, and the race is to see that it can temper any friction and heat loss enough to keep this self-feeding cycle going up and up.

It does this by displacing excess frictions and heat loss/unusable heat away from itself, i.e. producing totally new localities, technologies, ideas, powers, geographies, etc. We humans are part of this process because we created it, and it has been co-creating us for a long time now. And humans guide it because humans are the valuers, and nothing gets valued without a human valuer to value it.

The future is only not bright if the marxists and globalist pseudo intellectual inbred fucktards and the transiotechhieshitstains manage to gain power and convince the voting populace to go along with their insane death ideas. But I have more faith in human civilization, human nature and the power of truth than to believe these idiots will actually gain sufficient leverage to do anything but throw some wrenches into the gears and make a lot of noise from time to time.

 

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Put a clever word in them! —
Must one not first hate oneself, in order to love oneself? ...
I am your labyrinth ...”.  -N

“A man is not great if he is not small, and he is not small if he is not great. Concepts flirt with the loss of their significance in the oscillation between ambiguous states, and this is in part the function and purpose of concepts.” -Primer on Meaning
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