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PostSubject: Havoc between words and world   Havoc between words and world Icon_minitimeMon Aug 17, 2015 12:59 pm

It occurred to me that I don't realize enough how much of the capacity to speak is used, and has probably been used from the very beginning, to indicate things that are not there. As soon as the capacity to represent came about, the very first experiments people played with it has involved lies, I am sure of that. Why? Because the probability of a symbol representing to someone who reads it precisely what was in the mind of the writer, is almost nil. That seems like a metaphysical relation, but what I mean in reality is that meaning in communication is a question of willing approximation, whereas communication itself is a matter of chaos. The word a first spoken was a distraction. The first function of the word is to distract from physical reality. In some cases, the distraction involves a connection to some aspect of that world, but it is never physical itself. Stone-carving and calligraphy are attempts to make physical the symbol, to bridge the gap between the real and the lie. It is thus a form of dance which is physical but rather than a representation it has become a new thing. The runic eye dances between the world and the word, and is therefore represented as a hazardous passage of deliberate suffering, a storm that wreaks havoc, an untamed gods kiss of breath to a first man.
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PostSubject: Re: Havoc between words and world   Havoc between words and world Icon_minitimeSat Aug 29, 2015 10:44 am

I agree with this, physical reality is a very low standard of existence and "what is real", physical-materiality is only the easiest possible such standard. But all this physical stuff is only a very low emanation of ideal-logical relations, or maybe "meta-logical" we might say. Parodites insight that we can replace a concept of identity for a concept of brute physicality in our standard for "what is real" is very useful, recapitulating Plato and a more true philosophical aspiration than all the mere technics of lower-threshold recognitions.

Language enabled us to form bridges upward to more significant realities; conception abstracts more universal truths as facts and as ideas, ideation is always-already rooted essentially in a kind of factuality. To lie about the merely undeniably physical world around us would represent an early and noble stage in the development of consciousness; human consciousness signifies various points along that more universal developmental continuum, and our subjectivity is eminently rooted in our linguistic capacity, in our enculturation to the history of thought, emotions, values, myths, that entire cultural edifice being a ground through which more universal logic can achieve living realization.

"The runic eye dances between the world and the word", yes I see this as the world-daemon by whose higher triadicity and irresolvable daemonic manifestations man and world are dually brought together, in part, never in total. A dance... I like that image.
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