At bottom, what holds societies together, and any real statesman knows it, is the carnal knowledge that it could be a lot worse. That's why beating your children used to be really important. They were unevolved enough that no contraptions could replace a direct suggestion of the direction in which things usually went a lot worse.
In a sense, our generations are unique in that way. Our contraptions are powerful enough that beating children is actually considered one of the most unacceptable ways things could go wrong. Thats fucking power. As Niesche said when asked what Beethoven would have thought of romanticism, we can safely say ol' N would be sort of only confused by our times. Still, Ill take both of tgose over anything that came after.
Anywho, whatever isn't about this simple guarantee is the excess of which we can still call the Greeks the unrivaled masters.