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Subject: Re: Trump World Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:58 pm
Germans learn English as a native language I assume because they’re taught that all things German are evil racist Nazi fascist backward regressive white male privilege patriarchy cis gender repressive oppressive bad.
Or something.
Anyway I met Styrkjar on Omegle and invited him here, glad to have his perspectives, and yours.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:02 pm
I do not recommend sleeping under rocks. Unless you have someone really nice to share it with.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:28 pm
That was a good observation. For us learning English is compulsory. I acquired my vocabulary during the time I lived in the States, Texas to be exact. I speak without the typical German accent, basically you couldn't tell that I am actually German if you only heard me talk in English. Most of my friends are English as well as my girlfriend, it also is my prefered language.
Styrkjar -- On the whole reading your analysis it doesn't see half as bad as it seems from the outside. German media present themselves as a unified front, a very determined and circumspect force with a rational aim. Which suggests that all of what happens is deliberate and supported by most of the German workforce, as some sort of way to win the war after all. It seems as if the state is ready to make its people suffer just for the rest of Europe to suffer more.
I think the advantages of individual German states would be immense. Maybe the way for the East to come alive again would still, unlikely as it is, be the revival of this strange past, I am sure there is something like Prussian spirit, and Im kind of suspecting it is maybe what drives the relentless will to control that Berlin is exerting. Prussians invented preemptive industrial warfare, they were the first after the Romans to be as comprehensive about it.
This is one of my favourite movies. Cinema is something the nazis truly excelled at.
Damn, these people were effective. I still don't understand why the hell Hitler invaded Russia. Nor do I understand this of Napoleon. Maybe they didn't have a proper understanding of the size of the Earth, maybe that says why they were so egocentric. Or maybe Hitler was fundamentally not as evil as to really want to occupy Europe with his madness forever, he just wanted to have an interesting life and figured, what the hell.
"Politics is only there to make sure not all lives are pointless." Or so he might have argued.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:09 pm
East Germany sure left its mark on the people that live there. They have a great sense of camaraderie and prefer a split Germany. I do sense a slight hostility between East and West, things never went back to how they were before the separation. After thinking about this a lot more I think a seperated states is something I would support. Although the East would have economic problems at first, if it does get on its feet you have a strong, unified state. The West would probably rise to become the ultimate superpower in Europe. Bonn would once again be capital(in my opinion a city worthy of the title "captial").
The Prussian spirit might be gone, but the only good thing Socialsim did for the East is create a strong sense of belonging.
It would be a nice thing to have a couple of different Germanys again.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:22 pm
Fixed Cross wrote:
This is one of my favourite movies. Cinema is something the nazis truly excelled at.
Goebbles was a genius, but a madman. The whole propaganda-machine is something that fascinates me very much. Why Hitler decided to attack Russia is something I can't explain either. Maybe it was an irrational descision due to the stress the war has put on him. I recently watched a documentary about Hitlers drug addcition. He constantly took experimental and very strong drugs to keep him going, he wasn't very healthy. Strategically he wanted to reach the oil fields in the Middle East because Germany was running out of oil, which was the only way Germany could really loose the war. But just like Napoleon, the Russian winter halted yet another superpower from taking over the whole continent.
Subject: Re: Trump World Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:57 pm
No, Hitler was far from a Higher Man, and yet his movement tapped into something very real. In my understanding it is actually Alfred Rosenberg who is responsible for the whole nazi mythology, the Aryan angle, the symbolism and all that. It seems Hitler opportunistically used Rosenberg's research and creativity to form what has to be recognized as a personality cult.
As far as exterminating the Jews, among whom my grandmother and a lot of other relatives (just mentioning it to clarify I have some sensitivity here), that can be blamed almost as much on the English as on Hitler. It is no secret the English had similar thoughts, and they did everything in their power to stand in the way of non lethal solutions Hitler came up with first. He wanted to send the Jews to Palestine right away, but the Brits, bitches of Saud as they are, weren't allowed to agree to that. He also figured to send them all to Madagascar, lol. Even Greenland appears to have been an option. When none of that worked someone figured out that they could also kill them all.
My grandfather escaped from three concentration camps to be reunited with his son, my father, who was born on the day the war turned at Stalingrad, right before the big razzias began. He was put in protection with another family just before the Gestapo arrived. When the war turned, the nazis turned to rabid dogs and made great haste with destroying the Jews. Since my grandfather escaped I am thankfully not forced to feel too much resentment. I did carve a monument for my grandmother into a mountain last year, as obviously she has no grave.
In any case, I see the import of muslims into Europe as a continued effort to drive out the remaining Jews. It is very successful, and as a result Europe turns to an intellectual wasteland.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:34 pm
Styrkjar wrote:
That was a good observation. For us learning English is compulsory. I acquired my vocabulary during the time I lived in the States, Texas to be exact. I speak without the typical German accent, basically you couldn't tell that I am actually German if you only heard me talk in English. Most of my friends are English as well as my girlfriend, it also is my prefered language.
Yes, I knew you were too good to be foreign! I have a pretty good eye for spotting when something doesn't sound right and no Nigerian scammer has gotten over on me yet
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:46 pm
Styrkjar wrote:
East Germany sure left its mark on the people that live there. They have a great sense of camaraderie and prefer a split Germany. I do sense a slight hostility between East and West, things never went back to how they were before the separation. After thinking about this a lot more I think a seperated states is something I would support. Although the East would have economic problems at first, if it does get on its feet you have a strong, unified state. The West would probably rise to become the ultimate superpower in Europe. Bonn would once again be capital(in my opinion a city worthy of the title "captial").
The Prussian spirit might be gone, but the only good thing Socialsim did for the East is create a strong sense of belonging.
That seems a little similar between the rural and city folks in the states (Trump vs Hillary, independent vs collectivist, carnivore vs herd). I'd like to see California split from the US. Maybe TX too. All the libs can go to CA, the hardcore right wingers can go to TX, moderates in the farmland. Then we'll see what is best. But it'll never happen.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:01 pm
Serendipper wrote:
I'd like to see California split from the US. Maybe TX too. All the libs can go to CA, the hardcore right wingers can go to TX, moderates in the farmland.
I think splitting California from the US is something that willl never happen, but I think it would be smart to divide it into north and south. California as a state gives democrats so much power in the elections due to the south being so liberal, but most of the north is rather right-leaning. A split would give a voice to the conservatives in California, which are currently not heard. The state has been deep blue ever since Bush Senior. But I do wonder why you would want Texas to be split from the US and have the hardcore right wingers go there. Texas is a fairly moderate state from what I have experienced. Would be great if you could give me an explanation.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:47 pm
California is the most beautiful place on earth. We will never let it go.
Only such perfect beauty of the earth could sustain such wretched nonsense and still remain wondrous. California tests itself on leftist madness, the life that cuts into life, and smiles at the utter weakness of its enemies.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:49 pm
Thrasymachus wrote:
California is the most beautiful place on earth. We will never let it go.
Subject: Re: Trump World Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:15 pm
Ive spent a lot of time along the US west coast, from San Diego to Seattle, I found Oregon very beautiful too. All these states are very liberal. I think it is because people there must have it so good that they havent the faintest clue of what the rest of the country struggles with.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:01 pm
Fixed Cross wrote:
Ive spent a lot of time along the US west coast, from San Diego to Seattle, I found Oregon very beautiful too. All these states are very liberal. I think it is because people there must have it so good that they havent the faintest clue of what the rest of the country struggles with.
So does prosperity engender liberalism or the other way around?
Ive spent a lot of time along the US west coast, from San Diego to Seattle, I found Oregon very beautiful too. All these states are very liberal. I think it is because people there must have it so good that they havent the faintest clue of what the rest of the country struggles with.
So does prosperity engender liberalism or the other way around?
The other way around, certainly. Wealth follows discipline and some other virtues combined. Wealth then allows less disciplined people to squander it.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:38 am
Fuck all racist scum.
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Subject: Re: Trump World Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:32 pm
You’re a lot stupider than I thought. But then I didn’t look to hard to begin with.
“Jews run the world” is the stupidest piece of shit conspiracy theory out there. It’s not even a conspiracy theory, it’s nothing. Just racist nonsense for idiots to swallow because they refuse to think.