I want more women's equality

Real equality would mean women also have to struggle and suffer and work equally as men do. Not being sheltered and expecting things for free. The collapse of the welfare state, for example. The end of alimony. The end of quotas and affirmative action, which is far more insulting and harmful to women especially than to men. The ideal of self-ownership and self-responsibility.

Using sex and flirtation as a weapon is a good example of why women aren't equal, and don't want to be. Not all women of course, but this applies to the ones who do these things. We've all known women like this. Luckily I stayed away from these women, but others haven't been so lucky.

Not equality of outcomes but equality of demands, of self-value self-reliance. Not using others for one's own gain at their expense; any man who uses others for his own gain and at the ruin of the other is basically just a whoring woman, trying to steal "free" stuff from reality at high irrationality of cost, at the mutual destruction of truth. The proper nature of women is to give, not to demand and take. And this holds for men as well -- that is the gender equality that I want.

Self-responsibility brings self-respect.

just took it from google images, didn't read the article but here it is - I think that's real feminism in the Socialist sense where they had communities.
I was in one of these for a few months in 1998. Pretty nice living, especially if you can get foreign kids to do your chores for a bed, their crappy food (Jews cannot cook) and 1 shekel an hour. Lol.

http://www.thetower.org/article/some-zionist-dreams-still-unfulfilled/

Thrasymachus wrote:

Self-responsibility brings self-respect.

I totally agree with this.

And yes, I have known many women who have earned their self-respect.

Want respect? Earn it!

That's what I'm saying.

Thrasymachus wrote:

^ this guy is very perceptive and articulate. The only thing I find to disagree with in what he says here is the idea that only people with kids should vote. But I understand his point.

The idea that people shouldn't be able to vote if they take more then they contribute in taxes/welfare is another tricky idea. I understand the reasoning here, but in practice I can't see that working. We don't want to move from one sort of authoritarianism/repression to another. I think we have to win on the basis of ideas, which requires all people participating in the process, and voting is just one way that ideas are thrown together to product an outcome on the basis of those ideas. The decline of standards and rationality is easily observable when you let these people vote, and because it's easy to see it's also easier to refute its errors.

So now it's just a race between the natural process of rising ideation to a higher truth standard in the open discourse, versus the importing of millions of uneducated non-Western people. Truth process within the west versus demographics.

Thrasymachus wrote:

That's what I'm saying.

I'm glad we get to agree on something now and again.