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I think there is a flaw in that. The liberals of the past years have spoken exclusively in terms of "us" and "them".
The entirety of the resistance to Trump comes in the form of "they" ("the fascists") have their way, "we" ("the good guys") must destroy them.
Madonna wants to blow up the White House because "they" (we) won.

Similarly, Communism, Socialism and Marxism operate with the "we" of the proletarians, the downtrodden, the poor, the meek, versus the "they" of the Owners.

The "us vs they" rift has never been more powerfully manifest than in the hatred of the liberals for the elected president and his voters.

My interpretation of this is that the left was always merely an "us-type" chauvinism for those that are really too wretched to admit to existence.
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Your view isn't at odds with mine Sauw.


The left-right paradigm that arose out of liberal-secular humanism and the values that it tried to preserve without the foundation in Christian metaphysics that gave rise to them, which now determines our politics, is without a foundation or a center- it's artificial, and constantly reconfiguring itself and alternating. It is manipulated as the Republican party manipulated it, for the benefit of certain entities. Trump was so able to perturb it precisely because he expressed a political antagonism that isn't artificial, that is, one that arises from real material conditions, ie. nationalism vs. globalism. (This antagonism did not exist so far back as the Greeks. There were collectives then, but not like our globalism- in fact, superpowers didn't even exist because no nation had the technical means of rapidly expending force across the globe as at least the US now possesses. Plus they didn't have a capitalist means of creating such a monstrous political union as globalism evinces.) The question is rather or not a center to the dynamic political unrest of postmodernity or post-post modernity or whatever this is, can now be discovered, to solidify a new non-artificial axis around nationalist and globalist politics.


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The socialist regimes made an error in striving to control the economic heights. It is precisely because they are the economic heights, that they are those sectors which most rapidly change, and whose internal changes most rapidly cause change in the rest of the economy- this robustness is necessary, because the world outside the socialist regime is not static. When the government assumes control over them, they solidify and no longer express this rapidity of change, as the government is more desperate to remain in power than people working in those sectors are desperate to remain with their money. A monoculture evolves like that of Venezuela. Then when anything happens in the external, which would diminish the value of the productions at the highest economic sectors, the whole unresponsive machine fails, as Venezuela recently did.


The Chinese brand of communism has learned this I think. They let capitalist-esque forces control the economic heights at least.
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As you said about the British, I imagine the French empire is back. The US could actually expand into an empire, taking total control of this continent, with the British and French and Russians taking back their empires, all forming a new alliance against globalism, Islamofacism, etc. Then we would have the much dreamed about four-corner choke-hold over the entire world, and create the first "hyperpower".


If the Chinese exhibit further aggression against the economic path we have taken in the US toward independence, and if the EU exhibits aggressions against nations trying to leave it like Britain and France, etc. then there could be a road to that new hyperpower opening up.
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Thats fucking awesome.
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They just set the atomic clock to two minutes till midnight. In war there's opportunity and all that.
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I love that picture. It was on my desktop the week Trump won.

These Doomsday clock psychos are just another puddle of Clontingoo. Incredibly irresponsible people, deserve to be tried for treason against all races of life.
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I get emotional because of such stupidity.

Same thing as with the climate conference, where these morons decided to issue a statement to the world that they had decided that the climate would behave according to their instructions.

All the newspapers were elated. "Oh, they are finally going to stop global warming! What took them so long!"

I can not accept that level of idiocy without releasing some toxins.
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I love that picture. It was on my desktop the week Trump won.

These Doomsday clock psychos are just another puddle of Clontingoo. Incredibly irresponsible people, deserve to be tried for treason against all races of life.


Haha, yeah I was thinking about how terribly stupid this doomsday clock shit is, but you express that perfectly with the above.
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The crisis of the collapse of morality's metaphysical foundation is the crisis of mimesis and signification.

Leftist politics in the artificial paradigm grounds itself on a peculiar ethics of victimization and marginalization. It uses dialectical-materialist critique to identify a power structure within which a dominant and passive force compete to fill up the utopian center of the empty signifier- which tries to stabilize the mimesis of culture in the absence of God, the metaphysical foundation of Judaeo-Christianity, with the passive force or marginal group in this structure gravitating the dialogue towards communism and state intervention and the dominant force gravitating it toward totalitarianism and racial purification. Thus Hitler and Lenin were both "leftists."

Right politics inserts capitalism as the missing datum in the empty signifier, but the logic of capitalism, like that of Freudian sublimation, merely reproduces desire ad infinitum in its own objectification; this is the power of the negation, of negative-reflective consciousness, which sustains the accumulation of contrary social elements and amasses a scaffold of political antagonisms and juxtapositions, as the Republican party has done in the US, for it aborts the internal division of the object of

[the Tathandlung or the first irreducible act by
which the human ego enters into reflection in the traditional system of idealism and
introduces division to a supposedly perfect and unified world, so that ousia or Being, ie.
the ontos, is simply given as the pure empty form of truth and the first of the three
epistemes upon whose basis philosophy finds its point of departure. ]

For leftist politics there is no external division between signifier and signification, for the right, no internal one. For the left, the signifier can point to anything as the Utopian fulfillment of the cultural mimesis, from communist regimes to racial purity, from socialism to fascism, while for the right, the signified can absorb anything through the logic of the signifier in surplus capital:


[ Capitalism is an attempt to regulate the Freudian libidinal surplus [capital]
resultant from sublimation following repression, and Marxism is an attempt to
explain away man's immanent lack, understood as alienated labor-value,
ie. the separation of the individual from the species-essence, as the imposition of
alienating physical constraints.]


Translating something I said recently to these terms:

Philo-sophos as a single drive, the essential drive of human nature, contains the whole text of natura as the [circulus universalis sit sine materia of the undifferentiated libidinal reservoir], which we attempt to [populate with definite objects]. Philosophically, nature speaks itself through philo-sophos as Becoming in reflectivity, but our forms of representation do not allow nature to speak as itself- [crisis of mimesis] this paradoxically converts the Becoming of nature's autopoiesis into the Being of the ontos, and flattens time into the eternal recurrence; or, as I said in the last message, the eroto-daemonic cannot release through eros the total energetics created by the daemonic via tensions in the libidinal-motive complex, [translated to the present terms: negative reflectivity cannot release through the signifier of surplus capital...] and thus the residual element initiates the violent alternation characterizing the contradiction of man's existentia. [the alternation in our false politics]

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I feel we should bring a lot of focus to that last definition of Capitalism. That's an unlimited terrain where we can explicate value in all sorts of practical and directly relevant directions. It shows of self-valuing, excess, value, money and product, that are all understandable through the same lens.

Aside, Clointen now tweeted that the people who are protesting Trumps upholding of the Constitution, are protesting in name of the constitution.

In the recent past, before Trump was seen as a threat, before any threat was seen by these maggots, they had some more sophisticated means of altering the truth into palatable statements, now, all they ever do is directly invert the truth. A fundamental impotence has crept into their evil.
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^ Last message was details of the artificial political axis.

A genuine one would require repairing the signifier and signification which are disjuncted without a metaphysical foundation. For that, there is the metaphysics of the Christian excessus which I spoke of recently, value-ontology itself, etc. There is time for that though, as things happen in the world, like Trump, and then philosophy provides the framework for understanding them, not the other way around.

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By the way, Steve Bannon, the Breitbart guy, what an impressive trajectory he is taking.


Quote :


   President Trump on Saturday ordered the Pentagon to devise a strategy to defeat the Islamic State and restructured the National Security Council to include his controversial top political adviser as he forged a partnership with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin in their first official phone call.

   […]

   Counseling Trump in the effort will be Stephen K. Bannon, the White House chief strategist whose influence inside the administration is expanding far beyond politics. In a separate presidential memo, Trump reorganized the National Security Council to, along with other changes, give Bannon a regular seat on the principals committee — the meetings of the most senior national security officials, including the secretaries of defense and state.

   […]

   Bannon has already been playing a major role in directing Trump’s foreign policy, administration officials say, and joined the president in the Oval Office on Saturday for his calls with Putin and several other world leaders.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/28/wash-post-trump-orders-isis-plan-talks-putin-gives-bannon-national-security-role/

On the complete other side, we have the spineless Wolfgang Schäuble ....

Quote :
Germany made mistakes with an open-door policy that saw more than a million migrants enter Germany over the past two years, Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble acknowledged on Sunday, but he said Berlin was trying to learn from those missteps.

“We have tried to improve what got away from us in 2015,” Schäuble told the newspaper Welt am Sonntag. “We politicians are human; we also make mistakes. But one can at least learn from them.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/29/germanys-schauble-admits-mistakes-in-open-door-migrant-policy/


??????

What is this???

Normally, a politician who admits to a terrible mistake resigns.

Honorless rat!
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^ Last message was details of the artificial political axis.

A genuine one would require repairing the signifier and signification which are disjuncted without a metaphysical foundation. For that, there is the metaphysics of the Christian excessus which I spoke of recently, value-ontology itself, etc. There is time for that though, as things happen in the world, like Trump, and then philosophy provides the framework for understanding them, not the other way around.


I am with you, except noting that Ive seen VO since its conception and inception as a direct means of power toward a truer politics.
We have truly been building thouhgt to disclose this very future in which we find ourselves, which that picture above represents.


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[ nature speaks itself through philo-sophos as Becoming in reflectivity, but our forms of representation do not allow nature to speak as itself- [crisis of mimesis] this paradoxically converts the Becoming of nature's autopoiesis into the Being of the ontos ]


The origin of human consciousness and language is grounded in a participation in something:

[This moment was both caused by language and causes language to be, paradoxically. It both created man and defines man's creativity. Corresponds to the ancient Doric revelation of Being. ]

Man created an internal representation of something in his head, then he experienced a difference or juxtaposition when he went to interact with it in the real world, and only then did he create a word to communicate this difference, as perhaps a warning to other hominids, or to the contrary as an injunction for them.

Mythically, Eve represents to herself and for herself the fruit of knowledge and what it would do to her, she eats it and something entirely different happens, Luciferian representation gives way to human reflection, and only then does she create words to communicate this difference to Adam.

Language and consciousness itself are created from this juxtaposing or differentiation, thus the signifier can never access the signification; a god or metaphysic is necessary to mediate the two. The divine is the something we "participate in" in order to sustain the mimesis of culture/language, this dual creation of language and creation of man by language.
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Right, and so a language is itself such a kind of god.
Its grammar commands the way in which existence can take shape as representation, how it relates us and to us.
Its vocabulary is simply the waters of initiation into which one must have been dipped to grasp what others speak.

Many languages have the myth that its characters were given or discovered by a god, such as Odin discovered the runes and Enoch/Metatron gave the Hebrew alphabet.

"In the beginning was the word, and the word was made flesh"

The beginning here is the center of this common world, this god, this mediating place where we can exist to-each other.

I could simply state that the self-valuing logic is this logos, 'word' - but this would be making things too easy on myself.
We must indeed construct a paradigm of meaning that can actually take the place and shape of this empty placeholder.
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Replacing the Abrahamic god as that divinity with the metaphysics of the Christian excessus of human spirit, would allow a new self-determined morality, a value-ontology.
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Thus there are several avenues of research:


- This concept of language (from which I derive everything I've said about organo-affective unity, etc. as a participation in, along the mimesis of culture, signifier and signification.

- The false political axis evolving with the crisis of the mimesis, loss of founding Christian metaphysic, liberal secular humanism, etc.

- How that false axis was perturbed, Trump.

- Christian metaphysics of the excessus of the human spirit, the final reach that Judaeo-Christianity attained.

- Replacing the distant Abrahamic divine with that immediate and present excessus; self-determined morality.

- Value ontology's relation to that new morality, as its mode of philosophic-logical explication.

- Construction of a new political axis to assume the genuine political tension between nationalism and globalism, grounded in that new morality.

- Reanalysis of capitalism as Thrasy has done, economic models complimenting the new axis and moral framework, etc.





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Each of those 8 could be expanded not into a mere book but into a whole school of thought. Work.
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I want to propose we aim to publish short works as introductions to each of these avenues in the next years.
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McCain on Trumps temporary muslim ban, says that it could work to Isis' favor, by further angering the terroristically inclined.
I suppose he would in all cases recommend against fighting back when someone attacks. The attacker might just get angry.

Fits with his war record.
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The 8 (perhaps more than that) could be broken down into a few sub-sections, and individual essays be written for each of those subsections, according to everyone's interest. It appears there is a space for a new philosophical movement, beyond the capacity of any one person.
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That's how Ive seen us from the outset of BTL. As a new type of philosopher - the type that has a group, tribe, clan, 'nation' of which he is part.
A new threshold for cognition.

Now that philosophy moves beyond individuality, it is only right that it should move to that empty placeholder spot, that 'throne of god' -
it could never do that under the single name of a single man - per the very definition of god you have been giving, as a mediator.
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"philosophy is coming home" as I sentimentally put it in a video in 2012.
Meaning that no longer it is carried by the wayward lonely hearts of outcast individuals, strangers - but that it has a hearth now, around which these strangers, not so strange to each other, gather and create a world.

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