The Analytic Impossibility of Globalism Until Value Ontology Is Implemented as All-Law

Its the first time the press core ever asks about civilian casualties of drone strikes. Trump will be the very first president who is asked to justify the cost of warfare to the press. It is a nice thing that media now at least pretend to have human parts, but of course, they don't.

Spicer is part of a strategy, yes, but I think he also fits the opponents strategy - they can use him to rile up all sorts of subversion. I think he really needs to fuck the press in the ass all the way up to their throats, by putting a black suave man there.

Spicer and Trump should have been honest about the raid: calmly explained what happened, cited evidence, given facts, but instead we get coverup and admonishing. I expect far more from Trump than this. I expect nothing more from the political class, but Trump I hold to a higher standard.

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Option 3: anti Trump deep state fed the operators false information about targets.
It's a widely used Nato tactic.
Trump couldn't come out and admit to being used like that, so instead he would get very angry and try to prevent losing face, and this in turn plays into the hands of his enemies.

Those enemies have arbitrarily and very enthusiastically sacrificed endless thousands of civilian lives to get their Cunts And O-Bombs elected, and I fear they wouldn't stop at engineering the sacrifice of millions just to discredit Trump.

But it's over for them. Whatever they do, they've gotten their war.

"קה מתמיד. ברוך הבא צ׳אק נוריס!" "Israel is strong, now even stronger. Welcome Chuck!"

Quote :

Chuck Norris met with Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu on Wednesday during the actor’s visit to the Holy Land.

Netanyahu told Norris in a video posted on the prime minister’s Facebook page, “Listen, Israel is strong but it’s indestructible now” later telling his security team to clear the building as Norris could easily handle any threats.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQmt5GD5wT/

Quote :

(REUTERS) — U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration is considering a proposal that could lead to potentially designating Iran’s powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist organization, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The officials said several U.S. government agencies have been consulted about such a proposal, which if implemented would add to measures the United States has already imposed on individuals and entities linked to the IRGC.

The IRGC is by far Iran’s most powerful security entity, which also has control over large stakes in Iran’s economy and huge influence in its political system.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/02/09/white-house-weighs-designating-irans-revolutionary-guard-terrorist-group

If you wanna fuck with them, that's the way to do it. Very amrt tactics, will enrage the Iranians and provoke them into making mistakes - it looks like Trump is seriously considering destroying that regime.

The sitting Iranian regime of the Ayatollas is, as far as I have been able to gather, mostly supported by the rural population - like in the US, the cities tend to favor more liberal forms of government, but most Iranians favored for the English to get out of their country, and this is how France was able to facilitate the installment of Khomeini, who was living in exile in deep-Socialist Paris.

Now his successor Khameini has been ruling for a long time, supported mostly by US foreign policy, which never fails to fuck things up so that Iran can claim more and more ground. Most anti US powers increase in strength due to the incompetence or deliberate cruelty of the lineage from Herbert to O-Bomb.

Presently the US is aligning with Israel again, and clearly is silently working with the Saudis. The enmity between Iran and Saudi Arabia is the fundamental violence-factor in the Islamic world. It is the antagonism between Sunni and Shia, the difference between which anyone would be wise to study a bit, as it is what will determine the fate of the ME for centuries. It is in a sense comparable to the hostility between Lutheranism and Catholicism, a hostility within a religion that is cause to the most pervasive and deep-churning violence, compare the 30 year war in Europe.

Shias claim Mohameds successor is his cousin, Ali, whereas Sunnis claim it is his friend and trustee, Abu Bakr. Shias tend to lean more to self flagellation and martyrdom - Hezbollah is Shia, they showed me proudly how their children had blown themselves up when I was in Lebanon as a filmmaker. Shias also have much looser regulations on marriage and such - or they have a lot of amendments that adapt life to more modern circumstances.

I have the impression the Shia world is going to collapse under Trump. He will make a lot of powerful friends with this.  Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the gulf states, Jordan, Pakistan, Indonesia - all of these are Sunni and loathe the Shia.
What he then does with these allies - e.g. if he keeps placating the Saudis - will become evident afterwards, is my guess - first things first. Iran is strategic nuisance number 1, and has been for decades. the French pulled that one off very well.

You can see Khomeni as a similar thing to what Trump is to the US. He broke the monopoly of the globalists and internationalists, though because Iran was a subservient country, the dynamics were different. It would be a mistake to regard this man as a fool or madman - but it would equally be a mistake to mistake the respect he is due for appreciation of the continuation of his politics.

But to defeat the rule of Iran, we have to understand its values. These are Persians, the people that gave us Zoroaster/Zarathustra -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nvkeGmnvRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArW8BGv1RyM

Saddam vs Khomeini:

In as far as the Orwellianism of Spicer goes -
I can see why people feel this way, but to me Orwell has already been made irrelevant by the fact that it is in fact the people themselves who have constructed the devices of their deception - and these devices are merely dishonesty, arrogance, stupidity and an absolute lack of depth, which is among other things the thing that guarantees reflection.

The rage against Trump comes from a populace that has allowed all criticism and dissent of murderous and tyrannical practices to be killed and marginalized, and they have been calling for murder of the president - something that in all other countries in the world would result in prison sentences at the very least.

If Trump was Totalitarian, all the "news"- and showbiz-millionaires that call for his assassination would now have been hanged in public. I don't think this is anywhere close to the case.

Compare to the Netherlands: publishing anti-Islamic cartoons will earn you a nightly SWAT raid into your house followed by jail-time and severe state-intimidation that will prevent you from ever wanting to publish anything again. Successfully running on anti Islamic and anti EU programs will simply earn you a bullet in the head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io8VDX3_R0U

By the way I am telling these things in broad strokes.

Balanced story

"The rage against Trump comes from a populace that has allowed all criticism and dissent of murderous and tyrannical practices to be killed and marginalized, and they have been calling for murder of the president - something that in all other countries in the world would result in prison sentences at the very least."

and with any other president, in the US as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9gfvQOF7C0

" there are competing narratives going on, but no way to really know what happened, and on top of that we have Spicer pulling this Orwellian shit that no one has a right to even question or demand evidence that the raise was successful. "


It's not really Orwellian, I think it's just a typical politician "pay respect to a fallen soldier thing".


Here's what's Orwellian: This raid was an entirely conventional military attack, even of an order much less severe than attacks Obama carried out virtually every day he was in office for years without any comment by the media. Now all of a sudden a simple raid is a matter of international commentary and dispute. I think it's just because Trump authorized it. We attacked a terrorist headquarters- with ground forces, (which Obama very rarely used, like I said gathering intel was not a priority for him because he wasn't actually fighting terrorists) likely to limit causalities, then they figured out what was happening and hit us back so we bombed them.

My source is just wikipedia:

==

Yakla Raid

On January 29, 2017, a United States-led special forces operation was carried out in Qifah,[4][5] Yakla, Al Bayda province in central Yemen during its Civil War. Authorized by President Donald Trump,[6] its goal was to gather intelligence on al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and also, as claimed by unnamed sources, targeted the group's leader Qasim al-Raymi.[7]. The operation was the first commando raid authorized by President Trump,[8] Planning for the operation began in early 2016 and was first presented to the U.S. National Security Council under the administration of Barack Obama.[9]




At dawn on 29 January,[15] several dozen[16] US Navy SEAL commandos as well as elite soldiers from the United Arab Emirates were landed by MV-22 Tiltrotor aircraft near the home of Al-Qaeda leader Abdul Rauf al-Dhahab in the mountainous Yakla region of Al Bayda. While approaching, the soldiers were informed via a communications intercept that the Al-Qaeda forces had become aware of their position.[6]


U.S. Marine MV-22 Ospreys on the amphibious assault ship USS Makin Island, December 21, 2016.
At the village, the US-UAE team engaged in a heavy firefight with the Al Qaeda forces. US helicopter gunships and fighter aircraft also fired on the town.[16] During the evacuation of the SEALs, a US Marine Corps (USMC) Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey was damaged in a hard landing after losing power, injuring three additional commandos aboard. The Osprey was subsequently destroyed by a friendly airstrike.[17]

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After forces became aware of US troops position, air support was required which resulted in casualties, including an eight year old girl they were probably using as a sex slave.

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Determining rather or not a particular mission was successful isn't really the media's job, nor do they possess even the capacity to do so; their job is just to objectively report the facts, not advance a political circlejerk about it or anything else.

So the truth is between hypothetical 1 and 2. It was neither a flawless success or a complete rules of engagement "waste the motherfuckers" situation. Intel was gathered, and ground troops were used instead of drones probably because Trump understands the massive causalities with drone strikes, plus they limit intel gathering capability, but the combatant forces figured out what was going on and attacked hard enough to require air support; they had civilians with them probably for sex slavery and they got killed.

I like that perspective. Thanks for narrowing it down.



Further in the other video, I ran into this very interesting outcry

https://youtu.be/F9gfvQOF7C0?t=16m28s

Im thinking about how to respond.
Is either of you interested in this?

But if every time a civilian casualty occurs the media is going to go through this over Trump, we have a big problem because that's a tacit admission that our last president, Obongo the valorous king Nogger, [kek] was a genocidal maniac.

I can basically do a voice-over of texts written here over visuals I gather with some of our own music, cut with quotes and other video that I gather from youtube.

That would amount to the technical side, the editorial side would require some collusion.

They crashed a top secret plane on Obama's Osama raid too, fucking people need to learn how to fly.

Fixed Cross wrote:

I can basically do a voice-over of texts written here over visuals I gather with some of our own music, cut with quotes and other video that I gather from youtube.

That would amount to the technical side, the editorial side would require some collusion.

It is interesting.

When that happened I was in Hollywood in a movie theater in the bathroom when I passed two guys one of which was reading his phone and said did you hear? They killed Obama. In shock he realized what he had said and corrected himself. It was an eerie day.

I was laughing though when I saw the rendered image of the coffin being tossed from deck. Apparently they didnt have a camera with them.

LOL I JUST RECOVERED LEAKED FOOTAGE FROM TRUMP'S YAKLA RAID GUISE

Parodites wrote:

Fixed Cross wrote:

I can basically do a voice-over of texts written here over visuals I gather with some of our own music, cut with quotes and other video that I gather from youtube.

That would amount to the technical side, the editorial side would require some collusion.

It is interesting.

Let me set up a newsroom thread in Kurukshetra.
Just add whatever you deem fit, with or without instruction on how to use it.

Parodites wrote:

LOL I JUST RECOVERED LEAKED FOOTAGE FROM TRUMP'S YAKLA RAID GUISE

Nah, old Obama raid, uploaded 2011.
Or it was predictive programming.

But like I said, he needs to use their racial tactics against them, simply by putting up that which they dare not criticize, a black person, as a front.
This simply to influence their psyches properly, to make them truly ill at ease.

I hate this sort of thing, racial and gender tactics, but it is the only game in town with the media, and you can so easily turn it around on them if you're willing to directly engage their values, and basically taken them away from them.

Parodites wrote:

" there are competing narratives going on, but no way to really know what happened, and on top of that we have Spicer pulling this Orwellian shit that no one has a right to even question or demand evidence that the raise was successful. "


It's not really Orwellian, I think it's just a typical politician "pay respect to a fallen soldier thing".


Here's what's Orwellian: This raid was an entirely conventional military attack, even of an order much less severe than attacks Obama carried out virtually every day he was in office for years without any comment by the media. Now all of a sudden a simple raid is a matter of international commentary and dispute. I think it's just because Trump authorized it. We attacked a terrorist headquarters- with ground forces, (which Obama very rarely used, like I said gathering intel was not a priority for him because he wasn't actually fighting terrorists) likely to limit causalities, then they figured out what was happening and hit us back so we bombed them.

My source is just wikipedia:

==

Yakla Raid

On January 29, 2017, a United States-led special forces operation was carried out in Qifah,[4][5] Yakla, Al Bayda province in central Yemen during its Civil War. Authorized by President Donald Trump,[6] its goal was to gather intelligence on al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and also, as claimed by unnamed sources, targeted the group's leader Qasim al-Raymi.[7]. The operation was the first commando raid authorized by President Trump,[8] Planning for the operation began in early 2016 and was first presented to the U.S. National Security Council under the administration of Barack Obama.[9]




At dawn on 29 January,[15] several dozen[16] US Navy SEAL commandos as well as elite soldiers from the United Arab Emirates were landed by MV-22 Tiltrotor aircraft near the home of Al-Qaeda leader Abdul Rauf al-Dhahab in the mountainous Yakla region of Al Bayda. While approaching, the soldiers were informed via a communications intercept that the Al-Qaeda forces had become aware of their position.[6]


U.S. Marine MV-22 Ospreys on the amphibious assault ship USS Makin Island, December 21, 2016.
At the village, the US-UAE team engaged in a heavy firefight with the Al Qaeda forces. US helicopter gunships and fighter aircraft also fired on the town.[16] During the evacuation of the SEALs, a US Marine Corps (USMC) Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey was damaged in a hard landing after losing power, injuring three additional commandos aboard. The Osprey was subsequently destroyed by a friendly airstrike.[17]

==

After forces became aware of US troops position, air support was required which resulted in casualties, including an eight year old girl they were probably using as a sex slave.

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Determining rather or not a particular mission was successful isn't really the media's job, nor do they possess even the capacity to do so; their job is just to objectively report the facts, not advance a political circlejerk about it or anything else.

That's great, so why didn't Spicer say that? Here is my problem: Trump shouldn't be trying to play this game on the old rules, where the press secretary goes out and does some manipualtions and word games and denials etc blah blah, fuck that-- Trump needs a badass dude to walk out there with a casual smile and say, "Dear American people, here are the facts: ....", in which case he would simply read off a factually statement regarding what took place in the raid, such as what the Wiki provides that you quoted.

No more of this typical BS, we are fucking sick of word games. Trump got elected because he isn't like that. So I have no tolerance for this wanna-be manipulator and word wizard Spicer, he needs to get the fuck out and maybe Trump can do his own press briefings.

Spicer stands there and tells us how we can and cannot talk about the raid. I watched the press conference, that is why I'm pissed about him. He says "you can't talk about this unless you acknowledge it was a glowing success" and "you can't criticize it without impugning a dead soldier". Wtf, don't fucking tell me how I can and can't talk, or how I can and can't ask questions.

We don't need to emulate Olama's aloof bullshitty lawyer-speak, nor his douchebag of a press secretary.

It's actually good that Spicer dealt with it as he did, because now the conversation is moved from Trump's military ability to talking about civilian causalities in the context of rather or not he was "successful". This will unintentionally lead them or at least everyone watching them to the logical reality that, by the new moral standard they've suddenly discovered over Trump, Obama was a genocidal lunatic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzggK5DRBA

Parodites wrote:

It's actually good that Spicer dealt with it as he did, because now the conversation is moved from Trump's military ability to talking about civilian causalities in the context of rather or not he was "successful". This will unintentionally lead them or at least everyone watching them to the logical reality that, by the new moral standard they've suddenly discovered over Trump, Obama was a genocidal lunatic.

He might begin each press briefing with a memorandum on unreported actions by the previous president and consequences thereof.
Say it is necessary context to understand the current events which may seem harsh.
A bit like the USSR did after Stalin.

Quote :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzggK5DRBA

Racist scum... can you imagine what would happen if Netflix broadcasts a show called "Dear Black People" where a white man is telling black people what to do?

Sickening.

Parodites wrote:

It's actually good that Spicer dealt with it as he did, because now the conversation is moved from Trump's military ability to talking about civilian causalities in the context of rather or not he was "successful". This will unintentionally lead them or at least everyone watching them to the logical reality that, by the new moral standard they've suddenly discovered over Trump, Obama was a genocidal lunatic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzggK5DRBA

That Netflix show is some racist garbage. How the fuck is that ok when I can't go make a "dear black people" show full of idiotic stereotypes and not-so-subtle insults? Fuck racism. Also what does that have to do Spicer being a manipulative Orwellian-wanna-be?