Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream

In essence: I don't think every Muslim individual is a rapist or a barbarian, but the point is, taken as a group, a random sample of 10,000 Muslims poses certain risks to Western civilization that a sample of 10,000 Swedes does not. At the writing desk, in philosophy considering abstractions, or in a cloister considering God, one can afford to dispense with generalizations, but generalization is still a basic and necessary function of human intelligence that we evolved for a reason, especially with regard to risk assessment: there is no need for risk assessment in philosophy, for ideas do not kill and can't be killed. When making decisions, politically, that will have immediate physical consequences for people and for the preservation of a state, one has no choice but to take a more limited perspective and consider groups rather than individuals, hours rather than years, etc. If I executed my philosophy in practice in the world, human civilization would collapse immediately: if any philosophy was imposed as a regulative order on the world, human civilization would collapse immediately, (hence the failure of the communistic progamme, which is actually a philosophy not a politics or economic model) for abstractions cannot function in real time- one needs statistical models and generalizations and the like- a politics, for that. The purpose of a philosophy is not to be physically executed like a political scheme, but to serve as a guiding theoretical framework for developing political scheme(s), which necessarily will always be more restrictive than a philosophy. To distinguish like the Greeks, philosophy belongs to the theoretika, politics belongs to praxis. It's like the difference between pure abstract math and applied math, theoretical physics and engineering: theoretical physics, ie. philosophy, creates a field of possibilities for engineering, but the science of engineering, as politics, must be much more limited.


The theoretical framework or philosophy out of which all the competing economic models currently operant, as well as the diverging right and left ideologies evolved, has collapsed- this has always been my basic premise for predicting Trump's victory. (As well as the collapse of the democratic party, which is taking place even better than I imagined it would) A philosophy must be created to serve as a new horizon of possibilities, a guiding image of thought or episteme, out of which to generate numerous competing, but more limited, political schemes, which will have to fight amongst each other in the still dawning, new aeon. Trump is here not to provide that new philosophy but to finish fighting off the residual political schemes from the dead, outdated philosophy, from the Judaeo-Christian episteme whose dissolution at the emergence of the liberal-secular humanist order allowed the globalist system to come into existence in the absence of a true philosophic framework underlying civilization and consolidate the four towers of power, namely economic power, ecclesiastical power, political or structural power, and intellectual power- ie. governmental regulation of the school system and academia and media,- residual elements that are still infecting the national discourse; the globalists, the crony capitalist bureaucracies, which have made us dependent on other nations and paralyzed us politically to follow through with opening the door to the new age, as well as what remains of the old guard neocon type conservatives and republicans, ie. Bush, and what remains of the leftist retard neolibs and democrats, ie. the Clintonian types. Literally ending the Bush and Clinton dynasty was just a perfect symbol for this.


We each have our own shard to add to the new philosophy, but it does not yet exist.

This regulating episteme characterizes Plato, and I take him as being thoroughly misinterpreted as a practitioner of the dialectic and synthesis. In my reading, the Platonic form is an episteme; it defines a set of topoi, namely an ontic, immanent, and transcendent field of potential, into which the positive affirmation of the unity of Being is unfolded by negative reflection and contradiction into a plurality, leading to the aporia that most of Plato's dialogues end with rather than a synthesis of a thesis and antithesis, as the many voices of the participating philosophers grow silent and the episteme loses its regulative power over thought, then a new episteme is created and a new dialogue begins.

Like the Socratic mimesis of
knowledge itself, the Platonic dialogue concludes in aporia: this is Plato's extension of
Socrates and the limited form of the dialectic, in that he reconfigures philosophy in such a
way as to inaugurate for the Athenian era the radical positivity that the Parmenidean (now
the Hegelian) univocality of Being dispensed with, so that, with the conclusion of each
text, we are left with an expansion of the philosophic lexicon into a multitude of voices
all gathered in the silence of philosophic wonder at the self-defeating reach of the
particular toward the absolute, rather than the absorption of so many given terms into the
totality. This aporia reproduces the negativity of reflectivity as the object of reflection; it
reproduces for reflectivity its own negativity as object and, thereby maintaining the limen
to the mythos from which philosophy intuits the radical positivity of Being, (a mythic
depth Plato explicitly aligns himself with, in opposition to Aristotle) deepens man's sense
of the tragic longing of the particular for the universal, our thaumazein or wonder, which
the dialectic threatens to absorb. Indeed, almost all the dialogues conclude in an aporia,
rather than a dialectical synthesis of differences. That Plato is taken for a dialectician
owes itself merely to the subtle fact that he mastered the dialectic- in order to articulate its
limitation.

It's baffling that to be against illegal immigration is now "bigoted". What, all illegal activities are to be allowed otherwise we are bigoted??
I cant grasp just how dumb these people are.

Toronto is in turmoil because someone addressed white people in a stencil on a lamppost. You cant be white and not apologize for that. You cant say that all white males arent racist, or you are a racist. You cant say "hey white person" because youre racist. Yeah, just keep it up, haha. We'll see.



Id like to understand better what you mean with the philosophy that hasnt yet come about, that can use ours to build itself. Do you believe much is still lacking?

Qua Islam, all that we need to do is make sure the immigrants get houses in the upper east side and Malibu, to be neighbors of Clinton voters, rather than to have them overtake all working class cities like it happened in Europe.

90 percent of northern European working class people vote for anti islamic nationalis  because everyone knows a girl that has been attacked by a muslim or a muslim whose kin has joined Isis. This still qualifies as prejudice in leftists minds, until their own daughter is raped. We just need to put those lovebirds, the muslims and the gliberals, together for a change. Who knows they will make babies together and create some form of mild submission that doesnt take offense at the existence of free humans.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/11/16/netanyahu-looking-forward-working-trump-twin-interests-peace-security/


You should have heard my laughter. Its almost as if Trump is reading BTL.
What delight fills these days.

Fixed Cross wrote:

Id like to understand better what you mean with the philosophy that hasnt yet come about, that can use ours to build itself. Do you believe much is still lacking?

Only after all this residual material from the dead aeon and philosophy is swept away, the old political order, assuming the Trump administration is successful, can the new one be seen clearly enough to philosophize itself into existence, until then it exists only as shards not yet connected properly. And this new political order is not just American, as it is arising over the whole planet, ie. Brexit. But Trump and Brexit are not the new philosophy itself, but the act of sweeping away what remains from the old one. America is however the center of the world-system, so whatever happens here has consequences everywhere else.

An article I just read, somebody kill me please:


Donald Trump Is the Result of White Rage, Not Economic Anxiety

"White rage got us here. While the economic anxiety of Trump supporters is often touted as the driving force behind the mogul’s electoral college victory, that rationale is just a ruse, a clever red herring. The median income of a Trump supporter is more than $70,000 per year, which is well above the national average, and a 2016 study noted that it would take African Americans 228 years to equal the wealth of whites in the United States. Clearly, Trump’s pathway into the Oval Office is not really about white economic angst. Rather, Barack Obama’s election—and its powerful symbolism of black advancement—was the major trigger for the policy backlash that led to Donald Trump, and which has now put America’s national security at risk."


You could stop reading at the first line that tells us the author is a "professor of African American studies". So, pseudo-intellectual hack, in other words.


Median income is not the average earning of a Trump voter, it just means that half of Trump voters make more than 70,000 a year, and half make less. So there is no possibility of economic angst there? They just hate Obama because he's black. Sound reasoning.



If you look at the demographics, it is the very people who voted for Obama in both 2008 and 2012 that just voted for Trump. And articles like this still get written. An article that is denying the economic stagnation, it's like denying water is wet, which I imagine probably isn't too difficult for a "professor of African American studies."


The article is basically saying we're not food stamp poor, so we have no right to have "economic anxiety," in fact, any concern over the economy by a white Trump voter is just a ruse to conceal the fact that we hate black people. (Even though he got more of the Black and Hispanic vote than Romney did, and the white voters mostly overlapped with the people who voted for Obama two times.)


It would take blacks 200 years to equal the wealth of whites... There's fucking... a lot less of them than whites, I'm surprised it wouldn't take much longer.

What we've severed from the womb of privilege (not power) now is a breed of humanoids that self-values entirely in terms of stupidity. 'It's like, their thing?'

We, BTL as much as the anons on 4chan on the other hand know we stands in a swamp of stupidity, and affirms that so as to be able to rise from it.
Intelligence (being simply dominant nature) likes to hide.

Theres a nice journalistic book about 4chan called simply Anonymous. A journalist is tracing the origins of the anons, she talks to the main hackers. It simply follow the concrete facts, sets up a timeline from a few guys hacking into some expensive security specialists private email, to the time when one of these guys rats to the FBI.

Between those moments a whole world of power arose. A coherence of the primal order, an atom of a primordial valuing standard of a newly born tectonic soil. They are loyal to the self-valuing power of digital code.  These are the people that, were the internet to go down, would be able to reset, retrieve, and rebuild it. The agencies have no choice but to hire from this pool, so there is always a risk of betrayal, the channel necessarily works both ways, whatever is employed out of of the realm of coders, will in most scenarios carry on a loyalty to its utterly irreverent background of pure beta genius. There is no way of using hackers safely - they are the controllers of the world, and with Trump they have proven it. We hardly mention Assange, but he is a Titan of the free world,  heres a man that is ahead of his time. What he now has to do is produce a formal internet nation, so we can derive rights independently of nations.


I wonder if this is hard to do, create a new territory-less nation with legal sovereignty. The soul of kek with a body/immune system of wikileaks security. Sovereignty pertaining only to independence from other states. The contradictions initially encountered dissolve under the larger whirlpool of self-valuing in terms of each other;for the first time the "Christ consciousness" is pragmatically arranged.  At least I dont give a fuck for what it would mean otherwise, than the power to transcend time and space to unify with other human souls, and bring about justice on Earth. Christ was supposed the 'second-come', around the time the end of days of these other guys is near, I figure. Maybe.

Theres possibly a reason why their greatest upheld virtue is dying. At least those who actually prefer their religion over their personal capacity for valuing.
One of my pet projects is conceiving of means to free children from the clutches of that religion without warfare. Airdropping books is the main thing I keep coming up with. Its pretty foolproof.

What we've severed from the womb of privilege (not power) now is a breed of humanoids that self-values entirely in terms of stupidity. 'It's like, their thing?'
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These people rioting in the streets don't know why they're rioting, they may be stupid but those commanding them are not, they're just... wrong. One can be both intelligent and wrong. Take Soros. One must always know exactly what one is fighting for, because if not, someone else certainly does.

How do you know Soros is "funding" the protests? And is he paying people or what? I'm just curious because I've seen no evidence to this effect.

These people reify small kernels of truth because A) they aren't satisfied to just say a truth, B) they have psychological needs to defend, and C) they lack precise capacity of language, which means of thought, to say exactly what they mean.

Example, this liberal professor mentioned above is taking a small truth that many conservatives don't like the progressive shifts in society and they don't believe in giving minorities preference as compensation for past and present ills and disparities, and turning this into "they're all racist". Yes there is some implicit bias (basically just a psychologically defended position of ignorance toward certain ideas and facts) but the professor can't just say that, he needs to go further-- push into the excess. We should be able to see the beauty in this human capacity for always falsely reifying what they really mean. Same with reporters saying Trump said Mexicans are rapists, which he never said or meant. But the deeper small truth inside these media claims is that Trump does indeed reject the kinds of preferential treatment for compensation of ills and disparities that the left/liberals embrace. We just need to take things a step further in the analysis like this, to see what's really going on.

Trump does it too. For example he simplifies illegal immigration so much that it can be treated merely as an image able to be resisted or accepted in black and white fashion, such as the argument "well they are criminals so kick 'em out", I see conservatives making this argument often now, that we can just use the simple fact that "they are criminals for being here illegally" to summarily pass judgment in an equally simple solution "deport them", never mind all the situational and more complex factors involved in how and why a person becomes "an illegal immigrant", such as how immigration and visa processes work and how long the line is for citizenship, or how re-applying for a visa from outside the country is far more difficult and longer of a wait, if you leave before the first visa is up, than just staying and getting in that 4 million person line for citizenship. Or the fact that people are fleeing war and poverty and violence to come here for a chance at peace and safety for themselves and their kids. We would do no different in the same situation.

Reifying a small truth can go in either direction: it can falsely blow up the truth-content affirmatively or it can falsely limit and subtract truth-content to deny something else.

But all these false reifying black and white simplifications are really signs that people are becoming more "daemonic" in their self-valuing, they are using ideas as psychological props to test the limits of reification ...subjectivity is stretching. Now this pressure will force more accurate and precise language-use and thought-use, to varying degrees in each person.

It's happening on all sides of the political. So we can know that this subjective self-testing and self-expanding is evenly distributed across the American spectrum; namely, it is a true historical process.

As to the argument "they broke the law coming here, they're already criminals", well we run a red light because we don't want to wait 45 seconds for the next green light, we break the law because we're impatient over 45 seconds in traffic while an immigrant family breaks the law because they want to fucking survive. Not even any comparison.

Parodites wrote:

What we've severed from the womb of privilege (not power) now is a breed of humanoids that self-values entirely in terms of stupidity. 'It's like, their thing?'
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These people rioting in the streets don't know why they're rioting, they may be stupid but those commanding them are not, they're just... wrong. One can be both intelligent and wrong. Take Soros. One must always know exactly what one is fighting for, because if not, someone else certainly does.

One must be stupid to be wrong about such a fundamental thing.

They have resources and a clever mind, but in their self-valuing logic they are brutal morons. To even desire to rent people like this testifies of being a stunted process.

Still, I was indeed talking about the protesters, and I look rather than at Soros who i dont know well at all, at the Saudi Arabians, of whom I know precisely what they've been doing the past 30 years. Religion is the first thing to benefit from anarchy. This is not unknown to the longest standing and most powerful religious tyranny in the world.

The US uses a devious strategy when it comes to ME states: they pick some people in the tribal minority and support them to power, knowing they can never rebel against US interests because they are an ethnic minority in their own country. Places like Saudi Arabia use total socialism to placate their people, along with military force of course. I don't even think it's primarily about religion to them, religion is just a grease in the wheels of these corrupt propped up regimes.

It's obvious to everyone that Christian western society is culturally superior to medieval Islamic society. But that isn't really the point, because this fact is absolutely indisputable. More the point is to the neocolonial power dynamics between west and ME, and between military tyranny and the people of a country. Obviously I'm not defending Islam and its inhuman treatment of women for example, but this comes down somewhat to those more geopolitical and military situations. Muslims are capable of living in the west and of being scientists, largely secular-oriented and participating in civil society, I know because I've known a couple of them. But whenever you take people from a poor medieval society with western backed puppet regimes of military tyranny and transplant them directly to the west, the problems that arise are more reducible to the time-difference between those societies in terms of their relative cultural advancement; religion is secondary to this. We can't compare Swedes to people from oppressive poor ME countries, the Swedes are already part of a more advanced and developed culture.

This is why I don't like making it all about Islam. It isn't. And remember that the west set up the ME to be this way, and no one in the west sheds any real tears over the people in the ME who don't even have access to quality education or opportunity to learn more civilized behaviors. But even that aside, most people even in ME countries aren't as backward as we might think for their having grown up in these places.

And obviously I'm not defending real criminals (violent, gang members, drug dealers etc.) who come here from Mexico or wherever else. Those people need to just be fucking deported or put in prison. But running traffic lights causes way more harm than do honest people picking grapes in California.

One reason to be a little suspicious of Trump is that he picked Pence. Biden helped dismantle Yugoslavia in the 90s and he became VP. Pence spoke in congress that we found WMD in Iraq, and now he is VP.

Here we'll have to agree to disagre. My country has been overtaken by Islam (its emenies, gays and jews, can not openly walk in the streets, no one is allowed to publically speak out against it, currently the only politician that does speak out is prosecuted by the state), and every muslim I have ever talked to about it freely admits to aiming for Sharia to overtake the world. They all, without excception, shrug compassionately and say 'its the way of the world'. Even those that stopped believing see still the inevitability of victory.

Only one guy didnt: the generals son that actually taught me the ritual. He had chosen a secular life. His dad had given him the option, upon leaving Somalia, between Mekka and Amsterdam. So we met - he taught me also of the great awe the muslims have for the Jews and their mystic tree, and the common wisdom that philosophy is a devils instrument. Tremendous respect they have for the Jews, but only the Israelis - the Zionist. that';s what they used to call me in Amsterdam. Hey Zionist! hahaha. It was their way of respecting me.

A muslims love for his or her god is far older and deeper than our love for freedom. This is what makes the west so incredibly brave, and infuriating to the muslims, who figure to have the world by the beard.

self-valuing in terms of 72 purities.

It is up to the west to simply withdraw from everywhere except Israel, where an absolute force must be stationed.
Let China deal with the rest, they need that oil and are much more intimidating for the muslims. the Chinese simply do not exist in their cosmology, except as harbingers of the end times.

Thanks for your insights here. If you're saying Islam is a huge conspiracy for world religious domination of Sharia and nearly all Muslims are involved in it somehow, then obviously I can't refute that. But you'll have to understand why I am not able to accept that idea at face value. I simply lack evidence that would sustain this idea, and I have experiences that would seem to contradict it, namely I've met Muslims who are more or less integrated into US society and I have no reason to think they are fundamentally different than other people here, all other things being equal of course.

If the west withdraws from ME and other Islamic states then those places will become even more isolated. In any case I can't really see that happening. Humans share philosophical, soul depths that go deeper than belief systems, even intoxicating ones. This truth, of a deeper shared Existentia, will force itself upon these sort of belief-based, culture-based differences if only because it represents a more significant and primary truth and history is guided, in the end, by the more significant truths.

Anyway this is my thought on it, you may disagree and that is fine of course. Honest disagreement is healthy.

And obviously I'm not defending real criminals (violent, gang members, drug dealers etc.) who come here from Mexico or wherever else. Those people need to just be fucking deported or put in prison. But running traffic lights causes way more harm than do honest people picking grapes in California.
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That's all Trump wants to do. He plans on deporting what he estimates as 2-3 million illegal immigrants, mostly those with criminal backgrounds or are otherwise exploiting the US. People argue about how many have such backgrounds, it's irrelevant what the exact number is because Trump's made it clear that his focus is on deporting those who have committed crimes besides just being here illegally. The fact that they are here illegally is not the concern, the fact that they are both here illegally and have multiple felonies is the concern. Incarcerating them in our prison system won't work, it's already overpopulated and a burden on us. Just throw them back over the border. The rest will be given a path to citizenship, and immigration law will be enforced to stifle the flow of new illegals into the country in order to prevent the electoral demographics from changing, and so that we can attend to the problems of those people who are already citizens of the us. He did give the simplified version of just throw them all out while he was campaigning, but most understand that that was just him starting as far he could as an opening point of negotiation.


With regard to Soros, he destabilizes nations and economies all over the place whenever he doesn't get his way.

Soros gives funding to multiple activist groups here in the US, and the anti-Trump protesters are mostly connected to them; most didn't even vote, and are connected to sub groups within those activist Soros funded organizations, BLM, etc, and they're all of a sudden joining up to protest the results of an election 70 percent of them didn't even participate in. From day one they were waving mass produced signs with the United We Dream phone number, an immigrant advocacy organization funded by George Soros. There's ads all over the Internet soliciting people to go protest. A day or two ago Soros met with a bunch of other big liberal donors to discuss "stopping Trump". As far as the big corporate money in politics thing goes, he's one of the top players, if not at the very top. He's just pissed off that all the lobbyists are being purged from Washington and he won't be able to buy the government anymore.

But this isn't new, Soros has been active the whole election, being the top Clinton donor:


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One of Hillary Clinton’s biggest donors, billionaire George Soros, has been exposed in a massive hack for manipulating elections in Europe via his non-government organizations. DC Leaks revealed more than 2,500 files from Soros’ groups, most notably the Open Society Foundations. The leaks are especially concerning for Americans given Soros’ close relationship to former Secretary of State Clinton.

So far this election cycle, the billionaire investor has donated over $25 million to Clinton and other Democratic Party members, with more expected before November. Soros has also funded Media Matters, founded by David Brock, who operates on behalf of Clinton in several dubious capacities—like running the Correct the Record SuperPAC, which hires Internet trolls to spread pro-Clinton ideologies on the Internet.

Soros has been a major donor to the think tank Center for American Progress, founded by Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta. The organization also runs the pro-Clinton media outlet ThinkProgress.com.

The troubling ties between Soros and Clinton extend to her tenure as secretary of state. An email released by Wikileaks revealed that, in 2011, Soros instructed Clinton to intervene in Albanian politics—advice she acted upon. Soros directly benefited from Clinton pushing for the 2011 Panama Free Trade Agreement, as several of Soros’ holdings were implicated in the recent scandal there. That deal opened up the country for billionaires and millionaires to exploit as a tax haven, which was exposed in the Panama Papers leak earlier this year.
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In conclusion: fuck that dick.

Capable wrote:

Thanks for your insights here. If you're saying Islam is a huge conspiracy for world religious domination of Sharia and nearly all Muslims are involved in it somehow, then obviously I can't refute that. But you'll have to understand why I am not able to accept that idea at face value. I simply lack evidence that would sustain this idea, and I have experiences that would seem to contradict it, namely I've met Muslims who are more or less integrated into US society and I have no reason to think they are fundamentally different than other people here, all other things being equal of course.

I still have hope of there existing some exceptions to the rule. But its more of a hope I permit myself, for lightness of heart. Ive seen only evidence to the contrary.
If you have statements from a muslim that state the opposite, you should get them out in the open, they will be firsts. Also the guy that denounced Trump didnt denounce religious persecution at all.

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If the west withdraws from ME and other Islamic states then those places will become even more isolated. In any case I can't really see that happening. Humans share philosophical, soul depths that go deeper than belief systems, even intoxicating ones. This truth, of a deeper shared Existentia, will force itself upon these sort of belief-based, culture-based differences if only because it represents a more significant and primary truth and history is guided, in the end, by the more significant truths.

Anyway this is my thought on it, you may disagree and that is fine of course. Honest disagreement is healthy.

My experience is that I cause this truth-rising, through hard work and risking myself. It will stop happening when philosophers stop fighting. There is literally no other force in the world that does this than philosophy - and it is a well known fact that philosophy s considered evil, not just in Islam, but in doxic Christianity as well.

Nothing happens by itself. If it wasnt for me, VO would not exist. It required a mind of my particular quality. I know I have no equal, just as no other great man has an equal, so if it has no t been for my personal efforts, the coming age would be vastly darker. The same with Mohammed or Jesus; if these singular guys hadnt existed, millennia would have been unrecognizeably different. Just as with Netwon.

I believe only in individual merit. That alone of course means must renounce Islam and such organzational faiths.