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PostSubject: Re: Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream   Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream - Page 21 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 03, 2016 5:54 pm

Truth is appearing as a phenomenon unto itself. You were right about that the past years, Truth being a dominant organism; right now a waning power is explicating itself entirely as its negative image.

I am impressed beyond words with all of this, and with what mr Trump is doing right now I'm secure that I am no longer of aid in analyzing. Your work, Capable, is invaluable though, as you can reform the left. Ive been part of the reform of the right, and I cherish the alliances this has built me, but I stand back from the current paradigm of polarity that is emerging, as simple minds on the right have the disadvantage of being tedious and entirely unoriginal. Whereas leftists minds are per definition convoluted, often unbearably self-contradicting, rightist minds have this annoying small reach of subject matter and are always just shamelessly superioristic.

There's a lot of time for chaos now, and in that chaos, Trump will build, but not just Trump - we will do our building as we see it fit - and what we will build we must build to stand.  For me, that means I have to turn back to ontology and art, and the eagles horizon.

It's been an absolute honor to fight by your sides in this Kurukshetra-like battle. And as honor it remains, a permanent emotion. Honor is perhaps the emotion of Truth, and it values the best in its terms.

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"The cattle come slowly though the mud from the north. The bulls horns are adorned with iron. The cows, a trail longer than the eye can see in the january mist, will provide wealth, meat and milk. Newly woven baskets with fine flowers on long stems in them are carried by girls standing along the path. The tower of brick and natural stone is visible above the welcoming.

A beginning of a prosperous phase. The winter as a time of reward; a time given to the rich, the happy. Endless festivities, music, stories told in great halls to many happy feasters. Outside the forests are unthreatening, well guarded by archers in thick yet silent leather in which they move well and swiftly, trained by long standing tradition. Villains are shown some mercy."

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Resplendent. This is cool because I can criticize your memes on artistic merit.

I think you should join 9gag and post there. As well as Reddit and where I am at imgflip.
So youve got a great voice for addressing 'We The People'.

There is a Peoples Spokesman tone you strike quite easily. By that I mean more a novelists tone than a rhetoricians tone. It seems you are incapable of certain short term stylistic exploits.

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Thanks, yes I'll probably do that.
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Fixing liberals:

Trump is correct that the US needs to respond to Islamic terrorism. The problem with the liberals is that their political correctness freezes them into a state of non-response, they literally cannot react when a Muslim commits a terrorist act in the name of Islam. There could be literally hundreds of Muslim terrorist incidents going on all around them and the liberals will still force themselves to walk around smiling at Muslims and making sure everyone thinks that the "good little liberal" doesn't think anything is wrong.

That is fucked up. Needless to say.

On the other side, it is true that not all Muslims can or should be judged when one or several Muslims commits a terrorist act. There are terrorists from all ideologies, including Christianity. But imagine if there were a few Christian terrorist incidents in the US, let's say a Christian went to a mall and started stabbing people, and then a couple weeks later it happened again, a different Christian did the same thing. If this were to happen, if Christian terrorism were to become "a thing", then I can assure you that Christians would be talking about it, churches would be talking about it, and society as a whole would be talking about it. There would be a lot of hard discussions trying to get to the root of the problem, mostly within Christianity to deny that these terrorist incidents represent Christianity at all. But there would be some analysis as to why these Christians were perverted in their religious beliefs to do what they did; Christians would be talking about it, and society would be talking about how Christians are talking about it.

So where is the parallel in Islam? Where are Muslims having discussions about the terrorists that spawn from their own religion, and where are society in general talking about how Muslims are talking about this? I haven't seen it.

The answer is because of political correctness, which is basically just fear. Liberals are afraid to take their heads out of the sand and acknowledge a reality that makes them anxious, to admit an uncomfortable truth, therefore political correctness shields them from needing to do that. They hide in their fake denial-paradigm sprinkled with "I'm a good person!" and this is supposed to be a personality. But of course it isn't.

In reality, reality works like this: something happens, and then a reaction to that 'something happens' happens, and so on, until pendulums have swung back and forth enough to ensure that the original problem has been 1) largely understood, 2) that understanding has permeated through society in general, 3) solutions to the original problem have also been seeded into society in general. IF a terrorist incident occurs, especially of many of them occur and they are all tied to the same ideological or cultural core, then those three steps must be allowed to take place. Part of these steps is what Trump represents, namely reacting to what happened. For example, Trump wanted to put a temporary halt on new Muslim immigration from dangerous parts of the world (unstable societies), and this is a reasonable reaction to the problem of incidents of Muslim terrorism. Trump's solution here doesn't need to be "the answer" and it doesn't even need to be that great of a response or solution, but it still needs to occur because it is part of the larger chain of responding in reality and authentically to the situation at hand.

When these sort of response chains take place, they are not perfect, they do not get the problem perfectly fixed on the first try, and they spill over into some excess and irrationality. Think Japanese concentration camps in the US during WWII. However, such processes are simply part of the larger structure of a society and humanity responding to significant events that require to go through those three stages mentioned above: part of the outcome of Japanese internment was that the US eventually acknowledged this was an irrational thing to do, that knowledge was seeded into American society in general as a result of the original imperfect response. But America still needed to respond, the original imperfect response was still necessary at the time because better responses were not possible at the time, and a response itself was necessary. We can fault that people are unthinking, that our knowledge is imperfect, that we want quick answers rather than thinking hard and long about the problems and appropriate solutions, but at the end of the day a response must take place -- the liberal political correctness stifles this process of responding, which is far worse than the temporary excesses of the original response.

Trump doesn't need to have all the answers, he doesn't need to know the perfect response to Muslim terrorism, but he does need to respond somehow. We all need to respond somehow. This is how it works. Political correctness is an alien, inhuman thing that straightjackets the soul out of fear of making a single error of any kind, which is to say that political correctness is simply a spin-off of analytic, positivistic philosophy, which is basically just cowardice.
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Zizek shows himself to be a real idiot here:




Obviously our analysis on BTL here is infinitely superior to what Zizek has to offer. When it comes to America and geopolitics it seems Zizek is clearly out of his depth.

It doesn't even matter, all these people are being forcibly realigned to truth against their knowledge and against their will, by the reintroduction of the reality principle that Trump represents.

We are the new cultural and social political theorists and critics of the 21st century. Zizek, it seems, is content to be old news.
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There was a simple emotion that was reintroduced to the American psyche by Trump's victory:

Pride.


Never underestimate the power of true pride. The world-future is now throughly American again. Which means human.
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It doesn't even matter, all these people are being forcibly realigned to truth against their knowledge and against their will, by the reintroduction of the reality principle that Trump represents.

Do you actually believe that those people are going to acknowledge the truth? If you do I would think that you also believe in the Easter Bunny.
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It doesn't even matter, all these people are being forcibly realigned to truth against their knowledge and against their will, by the reintroduction of the reality principle that Trump represents.

Do you actually believe that those people are going to acknowledge the truth?  If you do I would think that you also believe in the Easter Bunny.

They are being aligned at the unconscious level. We see it in their meaningless frenzy of hysteria right now. They are making themselves irrelevant. That is how they respect truth.
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When they voted for Clinton they were voting to remain irrelevant. I think deep down they know it. Thus their need for political correctness, denial and hysteria.

The socialist desire is for oneself to remain irrelevant to any responsibility for the world, and for oneself.
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This applies perfectly. It's uncanny in fact. But that's a philosopher for you.

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And thus spoke Zarathustra to the people:

It is time for man to fix his goal. It is time for man to plant the seed of his highest hope.

His soil is still rich enough for it. But that soil will one day be poor and exhausted, and no lofty tree will any longer be able to grow there.

Alas! there comes the time when man will no longer launch the arrow of his longing beyond man -- and the string of his bow will have unlearned to whiz!

I tell you: one must still have chaos in oneself, to give birth to a dancing star. I tell you: you have still chaos in yourselves.

Alas! There comes the time when man will no longer give birth to any star. Alas! There comes the time of the most despicable man, who can no longer despise himself.

Lo! I show you the Last Man.

"What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?" -- so asks the Last Man, and blinks.

The earth has become small, and on it hops the Last Man, who makes everything small. His species is ineradicable as the flea; the Last Man lives longest.

"We have discovered happiness" -- say the Last Men, and they blink.

They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him; for one needs warmth.

Turning ill and being distrustful, they consider sinful: they walk warily. He is a fool who still stumbles over stones or men!

A little poison now and then: that makes for pleasant dreams. And much poison at the end for a pleasant death.

One still works, for work is a pastime. But one is careful lest the pastime should hurt one.

One no longer becomes poor or rich; both are too burdensome. Who still wants to rule? Who still wants to obey? Both are too burdensome.

No shepherd, and one herd! Everyone wants the same; everyone is the same: he who feels differently goes voluntarily into the madhouse.

"Formerly all the world was insane," -- say the subtlest of them, and they blink.

They are clever and know all that has happened: so there is no end to their derision. People still quarrel, but are soon reconciled -- otherwise it upsets their stomachs.

They have their little pleasures for the day, and their little pleasures for the night, but they have a regard for health.

"We have discovered happiness," -- say the Last Men, and they blink.





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Highly pertinent, yes.
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Repost of this dude I met here that played the section. It's one of the best piece of monologue in theater that I know, on par with Mercutio in Romeo & Juliet. It's the first time Ive seen this performed as theater though, and not only that he actually pulls it off. Not perfectly but definitely it caught me. I tried to film it as if I was a shocked bystander.... and decided halfway that sucked.

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They are being aligned at the unconscious level. We see it in their meaningless frenzy of hysteria right now. They are making themselves irrelevant. That is how they respect truth.

Good point.
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Highly pertinent, yes.


Agree.
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They are being aligned at the unconscious level. We see it in their meaningless frenzy of hysteria right now. They are making themselves irrelevant. That is how they respect truth.

Good point.  



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Because of course Christ is the Devil

Conscious Self-valuing, substantiated in part as sound thought and clear emotion, is "stealing oneself from a god who doesn't exist". Robbing oneself out of non existence.

This is what these pigeons are now prone to not do, but might; to die away from souldeath. I now see the meaning of heaven, hell and purgatory in the political social sense. It's "The Spectacle" as it is being set on fire. Holy Hell.

from a movie called Jacob's Ladder ;

Louis: Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So the way he sees it, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it, that's all. So don't worry, okay? Okay?
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I hold to the concept that heaven and hell are right here on Earth. We make life what we want it to be; heaven or hell.

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Sometimes people ask me funny questions, like if I believe in life after death. I barely even believe in life before death, let alone "after".
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Sometimes people ask me funny questions, like if I believe in life after death. I barely even believe in life before death, let alone "after".

Yes, I have stated that before. It is life before death that interests me more.
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The perfect Trump victory theme song:




Freedom, la la la la)
(Freedom, follow me)
(Freedom, la la la la)
(Freedom) cut it
(Freedom, la la la la)
(Freedom, follow me)
(Freedom, la la la la)
(Freedom)

Let me tell you, I'm vicious
Not pass-aggressive
I got my finger on my pulse, staring straight into a hole and I'ma get it
And I'm a savage
It's automatic
I got a way of making noise, the power to destroy with no static

Now victory is all you need
So cultivate and plant the seed
Hold your breath and count to ten, just count to ten
I'm gonna make it rain, so ring the bell
I know it all too well
Switchblade on the edge of your wrist
Can I get a witness? (witness)

'Cause agony brings no reward
For one more hit and one last score
Don't be a casualty, cut the cord
cut the cord

(Freedom, la la la la)
(Freedom)

You gotta feel courage
Embrace possession
If it was easier to shatter everything that ever mattered
But it's not, because it's your obsession
Be a fighter, backbone, desire
Complicated and it stings, (but we both know what it means)
And it's time to get real and inspired

Now victory is all you need
So cultivate and plant the seed
Hold your breath and count to ten, just count to ten, just count to ten
I'm gonna make it rain, so ring the bell
I know it all too well
Switchblade on the edge of your wrist
Can you witness (witness)

'Cause agony brings no reward
For one more hit and one last score
Don't be a casualty, cut the cord
Cut it
Cut it
'Cause victory is all you need
So cultivate and plant the seed
Hold your breath and count to ten, just count to ten
I'm gonna make it rain, so ring the bell
I know it all too well
Switchblade on the edge of your wrist
Can you witness? (witness)

'Cause agony brings no reward
For one more hit and one last score
Don't be a casualty, cut the cord
Don't be a casualty, cut the cord
cut the cord

(Freedom, la la la la)
(Freedom, follow me, me, me)



'Cause victory is all you need.
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Quote :

First time i listened to this full volume.
what an incredible song.

"You gotta feel courage
Embrace possession
If it was easier to shatter everything that ever mattered
But it's not, because it's your obsession
Be a fighter, backbone, desire
Complicated and it stings, (but we both know what it means)
And it's time to get real and inspired"

21 million people at least weren't adverse to thought.
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