Trump and Metaphysics: A Continuing Thought-stream

The (western) human soul will not go quietly into that dark night.

We've seen religious tyranny before. And we've defeated it before, many times.

High irony: Islamic nations only survive on western breadcrumbs. We even convert many of them to secularists, most in fact. Always have, always will. There's something that can't be denied as to the greatness of a civilization that actually creates things -- literature, film, technologies, infrastructure, space stations, ideas, philosophies... -- anyone who doesn't want to be a part of that great existential program of humanity has already self-defeated, and no longer matters.

Even if 95% of the world were Muslims, they would all depend on the other 5% for everything except some manner of religious self-intoxication at talking to themselves while kneeling in dirt. Lol.

Christians are already healthy existential secularists, for the most part. Islam is next.

The western legacy is elevating everything to its higher expression. For better and worse. Such are the methods of life.

Heres two dudes talking about two of their friends that got murdered. In the video-inside-the-video, the chubby redhead is Van Gogh, the bald dandy he interviews is Pim Fortuyn, who had won the elections some years after this interview, and was immediately murdered by a Green Party activist. The men had some things in common, most dominantly a dislike of the encroaching Islamic morals and regent-like, backdoor government  in our nation. No one talks about them anymore, its been 12 years since they were killed, Fortuyn in 2002, van Gogh in 2004.

The two guys introducing the clip (which is entirely untranslated, just to offer a glimpse) are anarchic leaning public figures, the dark haired man is Hans Teeuwen, a powerful comedian.

Extreme religious braindeath isn't limited to Islam, Christians used to have it, certain political ideologies today have it. But since all they can do is simulate reality, their "power" too is a mere simulation. Even nuclear war might be cleansing, as sad as that is to say.

I heard a Muslim woman on NPR talking about why she voted for Trump. Let's not confuse the battle for the war.

Ignoring battles to focus on the war:

Who has the most nukes?

US, Russia, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, and Israel.

The only real "human" wildcard there is Pakistan. And they know India basically makes them their bitch.

No reason to worry.

Yes Kanye West spoke some truths. Who knows that hell he has endured to know and speak them.

The battle is heating up though. The dutch media are opening their papers with "likely voter fraud" and enormous portraits of Stein.

Edit: I didn't like what I wrote before. Suffice to say that im tired of all the political media lies and games.

Edit: I didn't like what I wrote before. Suffice to say that im tired of all the political media lies and games. 

We need a new political term for meaning something like "unawakened people who buy the lies" and everyone else. But even that wouldn't be enough since being ignorant doesn't mean that one doesn't have upright values. So we need a reformulation of the politics like terms. Liberal and conservative isn't going to work anymore. 

Maybe we can strip things to the core values and build up from there. I think libertarianism would be a decent place to start-- just the basic idea of freedom, individual self-determination and national self-determination free from manipulations, coersion and lies. Truth as value, but worded in political terms. In this way the deadlock over pro and anti Trump could be overcome, as it was for myself.

Yes, it never even worked for me. "Liberals", what is marked as such, are one thing and one thing alone: fascists. That means drones, mass-movement particles, like you say, broken selfvaluings.

Fascism is the term that has always been used for their practices and broken values, so we definitely would commit a big mistake if we would suddenly pardon fascists of their name, just because they're out-fascisting the nazis.  

But indeed we may need terms that fascists who are new to the cloth can interpret in a way so as to be careful about getting in deeper.

Like the rather sane Ann Coulter said in a podcast, youd have expected the fascists (she calls them by the standard term 'left') to sort of learn from their mistake, but theyve only become more arrogant. That is a true mark of a fascist - much like lizards, they have little capacity for learning, and have absolutely no compassion.

I figured this is perhaps more of a joke than a threat.

Who the fuck knows maybe Stein set her up.
(Kek)

Ann Coulter is a shrill, mindless, religious bitch. Fuck her. These people don't have souls, trust me.

Everyone's bitching now about "normalizing", whether it's about Trump or Castro. What about how the media and politicians have been normalizing cripplingly high university tuition cost and health insurance cost, or NSA spying on Americans, or Obama's 7 trillion in new debt, or the disappearing middle class and millions of Americans who can't even afford their own very modest lives in their own supposedly civilized rich first world country?

Fuck politics and fuck the media (not all the media, just the duplicitous ones (mostly the major networks)) with their fake pretentious concern for normalizing things that ought not be. Pick real issues that really matter (real values), and if someone opposes "normalizing Trump" then make this into a values discussion.

And fuck Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, Mark Levin, Jason Lewis, Glen Beck, and all those blowhard religious piece of shit lying soulless fucktards, too.


(Edited for civility).

It's easy to see what's going on: divide and conquer, unite and rule. This isn't even complicated, it's a very simple dialectic.

Hardcore ideologues on the right push the conservative people further away from everyone else, and hardcore ideologues on the left push liberal people further away from everyone else, until everyone is insular and going on an in group versus out group mentality. Others are only considered "human" if they're part of your own in group.

This is why I consider the real "sub-humans" are those pushing this agenda, basically the media figures as ideologues on either right or left. In all likelihood many of them are working together, if you listen to them you can see much of the time they don't even believe what they're saying, their anger and outrage is staged, it's just a performance. Now use this lens of "dividing people against each other; increased polarization and in-vs-out group thinking" and you get a standard of measure that very clearly shows how Trump and Clinton were both playing this game. Each has personally attacked the followers of the other; think about that: Trump and Clinton both personally attacked or insulted or demeaned the followers of their rival. What does that tell you?

President of "all Americans"? No way. That too is just rhetoric, when you see how each of them has made comments against the Americans who supported the other side.

I've talked to hardcore Trump supporters-- they express deep almost vitriolic hatred for "liberals".
I've talked to hardcore Clinton supporters-- they express deep almost vitriolic hatred for "conservatives".


Do you see the game yet?


If even we philosophers let ourselves fall into this facade and stage game of manipulated emotions and de-humanizing others based on their "beliefs" (which aren't even close to the core of a self-valuing, and are easily manipulated by media today) then what hope is there for anyone else to avoid also falling into it? Our primary philosophical task approaching politics must be to explicate this stage game and manipulated emotional de-humanizing of others, the divide and conquer/unite and rule dialectic.

Capable wrote:

It's easy to see what's going on: divide and conquer, unite and rule. This isn't even complicated, it's a very simple dialectic.

Hardcore ideologues on the right push the conservative people further away from everyone else, and hardcore ideologues on the left push liberal people further away from everyone else, until everyone is insular and going on an in group versus out group mentality. Others are only considered "human" if they're part of your own in group.

This is why I consider the real "sub-humans" are those pushing this agenda, basically the media figures as ideologues on either right or left. In all likelihood many of them are working together, if you listen to them you can see much of the time they don't even believe what they're saying, their anger and outrage is staged, it's just a performance. Now use this lens of "dividing people against each other; increased polarization and in-vs-out group thinking" and you get a standard of measure that very clearly shows how Trump and Clinton were both playing this game. Each has personally attacked the followers of the other; think about that: Trump and Clinton both personally attacked or insulted or demeaned the followers of their rival. What does that tell you?

President of "all Americans"? No way. That too is just rhetoric, when you see how each of them has made comments against the Americans who supported the other side.

I've talked to hardcore Trump supporters-- they express deep almost vitriolic hatred for "liberals".
I've talked to hardcore Clinton supporters-- they express deep almost vitriolic hatred for "conservatives".


Do you see the game yet?


If even we philosophers let ourselves fall into this facade and stage game of manipulated emotions and de-humanizing others based on their "beliefs" (which aren't even close to the core of a self-valuing, and are easily manipulated by media today) then what hope is there for anyone else to avoid also falling into it? Our primary philosophical task approaching politics must be to explicate this stage game and manipulated emotional de-humanizing of others, the divide and conquer/unite and rule dialectic.

And now that Trump won, we will see what happens and how he values: does he value all Americans qua American, does he aspire to a deeper value-standard and reject the divisions of humans against each other, or does he play along and promote it further? Selecting the kind of extreme far right people to hang around him that he has done so far (Sean Hannity, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, etc.) I'm not very hopeful that he will turn out to be better than this.

https://thinkprogress.org/steve-bannons-disturbing-views-on-genetic-superiority-are-shared-by-trump-243d73866e2d#.vvm5nyxva

^ if that article is true, then we are in some serious shit.

The nazis dont relent in trying to blacken and smear Trumps people. As Ive feared their media campaign has only intensified. It's a civil war, Im realizing, Ive seen the NY times article, it was riddled, but riddled with lies like with cancer. Obviously these "quotes" are fabricated, as all that has come out about his "racism" was proven to be fabricated.

America might simply no longer have existed if it had chosen Clinton. It is rotten through and through, and yet Trump came out of nowhere (well, he was preparing for over 30 years, but people didnt see it coming) to prevent that unglorious end.

Yeah, since the country has been utterly depleted of High Spirit, Trump now has no choice to pick from what actually exists. Bannon is a good choice, he has basically won him the election and the smearing that the nazis are doing of him is a good sign.

I like the way Coulter thinks, I am sure you have a lot of experience listing to her but I will of course not rely on anything but my own critical mind to decide if I think someone has a soul - to trust someone on a condemnation is not something I could ever do, certainly not if my own experiences contradict it.

As was clear, our standards are different, I see the pre-Trump US as a completely fascistic and doomed, pathetic shadow of a country that barely managed to pull itself by its bootstraps so as to not be crushed by history and reality. The way the country is operating now, imprisoning its artists and printing entire newspapers full of crude lies and slander, it's nazi Germany, except Hitler just unexpectedly got denied power, and now he is trying to get it through backchannels.

I know Clinton because Ive seen her actions for many years, and know how many people have died on her account. I dont know that Bannon or Alex Jones, who is certainly very brave and no racist, are soulless or dangerous. They just hate Socialism and big government as far as Ive been able to tell. Ive kept an eye on Jones for over ten years, never saw anything soulless.

These arent people I consider the highest humans, but of the American establishment and media, they are certainly among the very top. That is simply because the million plus Americans working in media form such an absurdly low standard. People like Stephen Colbert and John Steward are infantile test-tube humans. They arent evil, just without any experience of life as a human. They are trans-human, existring only in the environment of overpaid media. As "Left" as they present themselves (certainly none of these people is actually left, theyre just nothing) they wouldnt know what to do if they had to live on a thousand dollars a day. They would panic. Just like they dont know what to do now that they gravy train has passed them by.

At the very least right wing media tend to acknowledge the fact that wealth matters, that in fact they are indeed as fortunate as tho have earned money, and that this is the real issue - the right of this time knows better than the left that poverty is the cause of all moral depravity and idiotic prejudices.

The amount and shamelessness of the lies told about Bannon is staggering. Truly, Hitler would blush. Then again, it is his idea that "the bigger the lie, the easier it will be believed".

The solidarity or pure love I felt on election night for all Trump supporters hasnt waned. Every single one of them has played a part in preventing, basically, the end of the USA.

The USA is a genocidal state, built on the corpses of a very noble type of human. It will always be at its strongest with right wing leaders. It could never turn into a "merciful" nation. The more it tries, the more Stalinist it gets.

Hitlers enemies were Churchill and Stalin, Stalins enemies were Hitler and Roosevelt, Churchills enemies were Hitler and the apathetic and placating. Reagans enemy was Communism. His ideology brought down the USSR enough to be vulnerable to the lowly attacks of his successor.

Many Brits, Tom being one of them, regard Churchill as a fascist, and many Americans regard Reagan as Satan himself. To me, Churchill is the highest politician that ever lived, defying Hitler all by his lonesome and rallying the entire country behind him to give their lives to stop the monster, and they did. Because of his solitary "madness" as it was invariably called by his centrist opponents, he put a stop to Hitlers mania and allowed other peoples to step up and do their parts in defeating political nihilism.

Trumps men are by no standard saints, thankfully. They are heading into the most violent world that has ever existed, and will need to engage in very dirty negotiations with all other countries. Trump is picking people that know how to make their hands dirty and keep their heads clear. A moralist is unable to separate the two and can thus never lead, except from the very beginning of an initiative, like Jesus did.

I have no hope that Trumps party alone will suffice in reinvigorating America. The Left must go through a comparably powerful transformation and focusing. It's hard to see any less blurrily into their future than Paul darkly through his glass, except for the philosopher who knows what Left Wing Values really are.

I was raised in the friendly shadow of constitutional-parliamentary lawmaking Communists, breakthrough Social Liberty sociologists, nazihunters, I truly think the best the Left ever has had to offer. It has thus been very painful and shameful for me to veer so far to the Right - but it was utterly necessary, as nothing of the resilience of my grandparents Communism has been preserved in my generation, except in us, philosophers. "You give the citizen hope", my nazifighter grandma told me, when I told her of our project here a few years ago. She saw a lot of things coming, never believed the end of religious war had come. She's gravely crude in some ways, but or rather therefore she saw that humanity was heading straight into an impenetrable ideological war.

The Left is essentially the defiance of God, and the discovery of Value in human bonds. Class struggle is the "difference" between God and Man, transposed onto man himself. This is a pure folly, but nonetheless a powerful means to acquire great self-valuing might for the downtrodden. Their belief is their means. "Historic Necessity" is literally a backbone to the spirit that was without it before Marx, whereas it is of absolutely no intellectual truth value. (the point of the discussion with Arc)

What the Left needs is a belief that inspires courage, hardness and ground-up organization. The only virtue of the left, ever, was its phenomenal toughness, its willingness to suffer for brothers and sisters -- Equality through earning your status as a Worker.

It is easy enough to translate this into current terms. It involves only one enemy: wage/debt-slavery. The left is not entitled to positive ideals - its essence is revolutionary. It comprises the challenge of lowly humans to work together to rise to full individualhood. That is the essence of Communism as understood in the 19th and early 20th century; Enlightenment of the proletariat. Largely coming down to two things: free time and free education. The two primary privileges of philosophy.

The Right will never be philosophical. It is practical through and through, thus political realities trump philosophical truths. Philosophy can only indicate that the Right has its place - in crisis, it is the only way. The Hard Hand. It comes at a price. In this case it does not really, because nothing may have survived its alternative. Right wingers will always be greasy. It's people who know wealth. It is ridiculous to see them as wretched because they are greasy - they are just over-satisfied. It is unfair, and only justified in times where greater unfairness rules.

Now that the Right takes power, the Left, if it concedes power to its enemy-in-taste (wealth is 'acquired taste'), can learn to suffer its self-loathing, which is essential to it and to its will to recreate itself beyond itself (Nietzsche is leftist in this sense, VO is Right, Ownership) instead of the loathing of the Other, which is entirely subnatural, not given to Communists at all; the challenge the best of them met was to overcome envy. To simply "also want the good" - rather than the Dethrone Capital, which is a psychosis-idealizing questing, common in poor men, and fuel to a lot of artistic genius, but to no political or ethical avail.

I put a lot of hope in your analyses of these situations and people.

I cannot confirm that articles about Bannon are mostly lies. But it would not surprise me if this is the case, of course.

However, I am well acquainted with Alex Jones and Sean Hannity... and Trump seems to be as well. This is... not good.

In any case, I am reserving all serious judgment until Trump is sworn in, and then we will see what takes place.

Shit, I deleted my post.

I said that the the US should hand over the ME to the Russians and Chinese and Indians - to the inhabitants of that continent - and then focus on making Africa =into a United States of Africa - a fresh new brand, USA 2.0, with a Constitution, i.e. a spine, a consistency, a self-valuing, a future, a present and a rememberable past - in that order...



Africa is far more joyful and exuberant and excessive than the Desert, which happens to have oil, but not much else to build Valuing.,

Africa is where it's at, Africa and South America - both perfectly valid objects of Valuing for the first USA.

;;





About these people, Bannon is the only one I take seriously qua content, he is a radical conservative but very much an anti-racialist, he may prefer or simply naturally tend to deal with white people, but apparently so do I, as my best friends are white. or if it does, then I dont know many white people that arent. None, in fact, but I am certain they very much exist in some degrees of separation from me.  My point is that we cant be against affirming differences without contradicting ourselves, as being against something is relying on the given of difference. Only perfect apathy can accomplish it, the negative ideal of pseudobuddhism, or that clumsy, violent and absurdly powerful version thereof, passive nihilism. We are crawling anew out of the mud. America is dirty as shit. Dirtier. But it is the only hope. So it needs a dirtty man to crawl from underneath the shit and call out "fuck shit!"

And others, higher ones, will follow.

I love Trump, you know why? Because who would have thought a guy like that would take on the fucking nazis??
He just turned himself from a boorish billionaire into a the author of the greatest political plot twist since Constantine turned Rome into a religion.


Trump basically turned religion back into Rome.



The path to Athens is cleared. We're up next. Recreate the Left - Platonism, and backwards in time, to the origin, the Poetic State.



What first started as a city-state of free men now returns as a vast empire of freedom. Freedom which is power, not the will-to, but the fruition of will; Culture, Value, soil for Being.

Create the conditions and self-valuing will complete itself. We can see how life came into being through this principle easily.

Environment and voltage.

Here's a Globo-holistic (Lefty) thesis:

A Thriving world will have a wholesome, blossoming Russia at its center.

It is the most naturally-humanly formed nation of all, the greatest landmass of our world, divided by nothing, suffering itself deeply and gladly, bordered only by deserts marking the racial differences themselves, except in its borders with Europe, to which its capital belongs, and with which it has the uneasy but necessary relationship of civilizing itself to our values- all the more uneasy now that we have allowed these values to erode a bit -- and in its icy territories of permafrost the oldest remains of human primitive culture have been found. Travelers, no doubt - in every sense of the word - shamans.

They still are shamans, that's why you can't defeat them. They defy death, Rasputin is essential to understand the Russian fighting spirit.

Strong US presidents have enjoyed hearty relations with Russian leaders, at least in the era after Stalin was finally purged. And Russia in turn understands China to a point, and China understands India to a point, and India understands religion very well---

so here is Jupiters "orb of power".


the Americas represent Jupiter to itself, excess regulated into "Mercy" - i.e. Freedom. The rest of the world represents Mars, or Jupiters outward Law - namely, that there is Law that makes sense, and that this law will be sensibly enforced.

Russia follows in Americas footsteps because it is no longer Communist. But it will never be dominated by any other thing than rugged existence, like a mineral exists. Thence, "at the center" - not as head, no Athena, but as heart, as pulse.* Mother Russia - turned to Daughter in very generous springs. This femininity of Russias soul is the reason for the hardiness and fated will of its men. They are very honored to come second to the woman principle - it's why they drink, and to answer Nietzsches question, why they too have songs.

Russia would then occultily represent Saturn, "the Great Mother" "The Bitter Sea".



* this is indeed its function in global (US) politics now, as you (C) remarked.

The aim is to make everybody richer.

It's not going to be complicated, we just have to make sure truly no one with massive interests stands to lose what they will die to protect.
And for this, we need to tread carefully, as not all interests are known, not all known interests are discussed, and not all should be openly discussed; I am walking a fine line, always, simply offering views on how self-valuing is thwarted and how it can be released.

I accept, as no other philosopher, the phenomenon of difference as ethos itself - I have even differentiated will to power from itself.
Therefore I see now the possibility of a division of territories that will have complex consequences for the Chinese, who must be drawn into a Jupiterian explosion of their own, very well stored ancestral knowledge, culture, and skillsets, which in sheer geneosymbolic-alchemic majesty exceeds almost everything else on this planet, and can most certainly compete with any Anglosaxon dragonry.

Hic Sunt Dracones

Trump appoints X-Men producer as minister of finance.

Looking good to me.

I like that he takes ex-Goldman Sachs people for two combative financial and strategic positions, people that were hired and voluntarily left the most prestigious investment firm of the nation and went on to do something more philanthropic. They got hired, which means they are exceptionally calculating and capable, and they left and went on their own, which means they are made of something.

The important thing is to make a team that can truly defeat it's enemies. First those abroad, not nations but unwholesome ties to nations - these are real enemies, ties binding one to the unworthy. America has too many of these to thrive.

Now there are not only attacks on the electoral college system but also on the electoral representatives who will officially vote to establish the electoral final vote count. Shitty democrats are trying to pressure these people representing their states to switch away from Trump. Yeah... no honor among thieves I guess.

Any state electoral representative who voted differently than how the state he represents voted, should be imprisoned for life. I can hardly imagine a more dire threat to a representative democracy. Hillary's (and the GOP does it too) hacking of electronic voting machines wasn't good enough this time, so now they aim to hack the elected representatives of the states. Unbelievable.

Fuck this whole goddamn system and society.

It's remarkable how people don't know how to think. How their values-actions are so easily subverted and corrupted away from truth.